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Cloudron.io is by far the most developed homelab in a box kit. Worth a look!

by imwillofficial 6y ago

m463 6y ago
So $15 or $30/month to self-host? What are the benefits?
- dvfjsdhgfv 6y ago
  For me paying $15/$30 a month for the ability to self-host is ridiculous (I'd consider it if it was 10 times less, just for the conenience of 1-click installs). However, when you need to install a more complex app like Taiga, it's often simpler to use the free Cloudron account to do it rather than install it by hand.
  - nebulon 6y ago
    Indeed as you mention, complex apps like Taiga are quite time-consuming to package in a way to ensure proper updates for the future. In fact I am right now in the process to iron out the update to Taiga v6 and that price-tag allows us to focus on such things so our users get a smooth experience without missing out on updates (disclaimer, I am one of the Cloudron founders :D ) For sake of our vision we surely would like to make it more cost-effective in the long run, however we are bootstrapped and thus walk a thin line with a focus more on long-term sustainability not just blind growth. (10x cheaper though would realistically even pose an accounting problem with micro-payments or plain transaction fees taking large chunks)
  - imwillofficial 6y ago
    “ridiculous” is a strong word. Sure if you’re addicted to free, and being used as a product, $15 sounds crazy. If you want to take control of your data and don’t have the time or inclination to do it all yourself, $15 isn’t so bad.
- infogulch 6y ago
  I tried the demo a few months ago and decided to give it a shot this weekend, and I'm pretty happy so far. These are some things that drew me to it: Dozens of actively maintained deployments of (mostly) popular open source apps, a functional multi-user system with app SSO and ACS where possible, an integrated email server, multiple app instances, easy encrypted backup configuration to off-site s3/b2/nas/etc, simple automatic backup and retention policies, restore/clone down to a per-app basis, broad and deep documentation, complete published api, active forum There is a recent thread on the forum where a few users espoused their reasons: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4372/what-are-you-favourite-things-features-about-cloudron/7 https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4372/what-are-you-favourite-...
- anderspitman 6y ago
  I thought Cloudron was open source. Has this changed over time, and what exactly is the status?
  - nebulon 6y ago
    The Cloudron platform as such is source-available: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box All tools around it and more importantly app packages are open source (MIT mostly)

Cloudron.io is by far the most developed homelab in a box kit. Worth a look!

m463 6y ago

So $15 or $30/month to self-host? What are the benefits?

dvfjsdhgfv 6y ago
For me paying $15/$30 a month for the ability to self-host is ridiculous (I'd consider it if it was 10 times less, just for the conenience of 1-click installs). However, when you need to install a more complex app like Taiga, it's often simpler to use the free Cloudron account to do it rather than install it by hand.
- nebulon 6y ago
  Indeed as you mention, complex apps like Taiga are quite time-consuming to package in a way to ensure proper updates for the future. In fact I am right now in the process to iron out the update to Taiga v6 and that price-tag allows us to focus on such things so our users get a smooth experience without missing out on updates (disclaimer, I am one of the Cloudron founders :D ) For sake of our vision we surely would like to make it more cost-effective in the long run, however we are bootstrapped and thus walk a thin line with a focus more on long-term sustainability not just blind growth. (10x cheaper though would realistically even pose an accounting problem with micro-payments or plain transaction fees taking large chunks)
- imwillofficial 6y ago
  “ridiculous” is a strong word. Sure if you’re addicted to free, and being used as a product, $15 sounds crazy. If you want to take control of your data and don’t have the time or inclination to do it all yourself, $15 isn’t so bad.
infogulch 6y ago
I tried the demo a few months ago and decided to give it a shot this weekend, and I'm pretty happy so far. These are some things that drew me to it: Dozens of actively maintained deployments of (mostly) popular open source apps, a functional multi-user system with app SSO and ACS where possible, an integrated email server, multiple app instances, easy encrypted backup configuration to off-site s3/b2/nas/etc, simple automatic backup and retention policies, restore/clone down to a per-app basis, broad and deep documentation, complete published api, active forum There is a recent thread on the forum where a few users espoused their reasons: https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4372/what-are-you-favourite-things-features-about-cloudron/7 https://forum.cloudron.io/topic/4372/what-are-you-favourite-...
anderspitman 6y ago
I thought Cloudron was open source. Has this changed over time, and what exactly is the status?
- nebulon 6y ago
  The Cloudron platform as such is source-available: https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box https://git.cloudron.io/cloudron/box All tools around it and more importantly app packages are open source (MIT mostly)