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Email service would be cool to have on this

by m00dy 6y ago

ericls 6y ago
Yunohost does comes with a complete stack of email services. Haven’t used in depth tho.
xupybd 6y ago
While I agree I'm not sure about building trust in my home IP. Won't you be flagged as spam?
- atomicnumber3 6y ago
  Many email servers (e.g. gmail) won't even accept email from residential IPs. I have a janky setup where I proxy mail from my home network to my VPS and then send it from there (outbound-only, and only to myself - for notices like "backup started", "backup finished" etc)
- nebulon 6y ago
  Cloudron also has a full email stack ready to go, however you are totally right about the residential IPs. They are basically all blacklisted by default, which is also why we had to add easy relay-provider support.
  - dvfjsdhgfv 6y ago
    > They are basically all blacklisted by default, which is also why we had to add easy relay-provider support. While I understand why people are doing this, I believe it's not the right way to deal with the problem - basically we're handing over e-mail (as a service) to a few big corps. Each time I have this problem I go through the long and painstaking process of whitelisting the IP and fight to make it work. Usually having it work with Gmail, Yahoo and Microsoft is enough - many smaller orgs don't use balcklisting by default because they have enough problems with mail deliverability already.
    - anderspitman 6y ago
      While in principle I agree, the reality is that spam is a real problem. At least we have a decent amount of competition and choice in the email provider space.
gsreenivas 6y ago
check out Helm - https://thehelm.com https://thehelm.com
ulzeraj 6y ago
SMTP is among the things I wouldn't self host. Chances are your entire ISP is already blacklisted for some reason and mail ports are blocked. You'd have to create a relay host on some cloud provider and secure it to avoid having an open relay then navigate through all the configurations related to spam and malware filtering, gray lists, DNS registers and so on. Dealing with mail servers is the only thing I don't miss from my classic sysadmin days. Although it should be noted popular MTA software nowadays are really solid software.

Email service would be cool to have on this

by m00dy 6y ago

Email service would be cool to have on this

ericls 6y ago

Yunohost does comes with a complete stack of email services. Haven’t used in depth tho.

xupybd 6y ago

While I agree I'm not sure about building trust in my home IP. Won't you be flagged as spam?

atomicnumber3 6y ago
Many email servers (e.g. gmail) won't even accept email from residential IPs. I have a janky setup where I proxy mail from my home network to my VPS and then send it from there (outbound-only, and only to myself - for notices like "backup started", "backup finished" etc)
nebulon 6y ago
Cloudron also has a full email stack ready to go, however you are totally right about the residential IPs. They are basically all blacklisted by default, which is also why we had to add easy relay-provider support.
- dvfjsdhgfv 6y ago
  > They are basically all blacklisted by default, which is also why we had to add easy relay-provider support. While I understand why people are doing this, I believe it's not the right way to deal with the problem - basically we're handing over e-mail (as a service) to a few big corps. Each time I have this problem I go through the long and painstaking process of whitelisting the IP and fight to make it work. Usually having it work with Gmail, Yahoo and Microsoft is enough - many smaller orgs don't use balcklisting by default because they have enough problems with mail deliverability already.
  - anderspitman 6y ago
    While in principle I agree, the reality is that spam is a real problem. At least we have a decent amount of competition and choice in the email provider space.

gsreenivas 6y ago

check out Helm - https://thehelm.com https://thehelm.com

ulzeraj 6y ago

SMTP is among the things I wouldn't self host. Chances are your entire ISP is already blacklisted for some reason and mail ports are blocked. You'd have to create a relay host on some cloud provider and secure it to avoid having an open relay then navigate through all the configurations related to spam and malware filtering, gray lists, DNS registers and so on. Dealing with mail servers is the only thing I don't miss from my classic sysadmin days. Although it should be noted popular MTA software nowadays are really solid software.