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I'm personally partial to the GPU drivers. Every now and then I get booted to cli on startup and I have to reinstall the Nvidia drivers to get sddm to launch p

I'm personally partial to the GPU drivers. Every now and then I get booted to cli on startup and I have to reinstall the Nvidia drivers to get sddm to launch properly. Also every time I reboot it's completely random if the login screen will be at 1080p or 4k (I have a 4k monitor). Maybe it's because I've got an Nvidia card. I'm scared to update because I know I'll have to spend hours fixing the audio and video, and whatever else again.

enriquto 6y ago
In the case of nvidia drivers, at least there is the (valid) excuse that the hardware vendor is purposefully hostile to linux. But failings of sound and localization are entirely of linux making.
- fiddlerwoaroof 6y ago
  Yeah, I know people “need” Nvidia but, I really wish people with the know-how would put some serious effort into making the deep learning stacks work well and easily on AMD cards: they may not be as fast, but AMD’s strategy is much more linux-friendly and it’d be nice for the FL/OSS community to work to make a Vega or Navi card easy to use for GPGPU.
- nsajko 6y ago
  Expending considerable effort to support each Linux release with Nvidia drivers is the opposite of being "purposefully hostile to Linux".
  - enriquto 6y ago
    They shouldn't need to "support" any Linux "release" if they only published the specifications for their hardware like a civilized hardware vendor.
    - pjmlp 6y ago
      Like AMD, that only supports GL 3.3 on a GL 4.1 capable card?
      - account42 6y ago
        For a few ten year old card models. Everything before and after supports whatever the HW can. Maybe it's time you let go of this grudge.
        pjmlp 6y ago
        Maybe it is time to stop advocating open source drivers as something that benefits everyone. Apparently old models get dropped just as with binary blobs, or maybe not, given that the Windows drivers work today just as 10 years ago with GL 4.1 and DX 11.
        account42 6y ago
        Well your hardware is from a time when AMD was still primarily pursuing the binary fglrx driver - if your card had an open source driver back then it would still work. What got dropped is the proprietary driver, not functionality from the open source driver. And with r600g being open source, people (mainly Red Hat's Dave Airlie) have been adding to it - in particular, there is OpenGL 4 support for some cards now, just not for all yet. Just because you are unhappy that your card was too old to be included in the current open source driver does not mean you have to spread FUD about it.
        pjmlp 6y ago
        It is not FUD, rather the proof that having open source drivers don't translate to support. If anything, it helped my decision to focus on Apple, Microsoft and Google platforms, and let go of "Year of Linux Desktop" mantra.
nsajko 6y ago
FTR: I use Archlinux and the Archlinux maintainers take care of all of this for me.

enriquto 6y ago

In the case of nvidia drivers, at least there is the (valid) excuse that the hardware vendor is purposefully hostile to linux. But failings of sound and localization are entirely of linux making.

fiddlerwoaroof 6y ago
Yeah, I know people “need” Nvidia but, I really wish people with the know-how would put some serious effort into making the deep learning stacks work well and easily on AMD cards: they may not be as fast, but AMD’s strategy is much more linux-friendly and it’d be nice for the FL/OSS community to work to make a Vega or Navi card easy to use for GPGPU.
nsajko 6y ago
Expending considerable effort to support each Linux release with Nvidia drivers is the opposite of being "purposefully hostile to Linux".
- enriquto 6y ago
  They shouldn't need to "support" any Linux "release" if they only published the specifications for their hardware like a civilized hardware vendor.
  - pjmlp 6y ago
    Like AMD, that only supports GL 3.3 on a GL 4.1 capable card?
    - account42 6y ago
      For a few ten year old card models. Everything before and after supports whatever the HW can. Maybe it's time you let go of this grudge.
      - pjmlp 6y ago
        Maybe it is time to stop advocating open source drivers as something that benefits everyone. Apparently old models get dropped just as with binary blobs, or maybe not, given that the Windows drivers work today just as 10 years ago with GL 4.1 and DX 11.
        account42 6y ago
        Well your hardware is from a time when AMD was still primarily pursuing the binary fglrx driver - if your card had an open source driver back then it would still work. What got dropped is the proprietary driver, not functionality from the open source driver. And with r600g being open source, people (mainly Red Hat's Dave Airlie) have been adding to it - in particular, there is OpenGL 4 support for some cards now, just not for all yet. Just because you are unhappy that your card was too old to be included in the current open source driver does not mean you have to spread FUD about it.
        pjmlp 6y ago
        It is not FUD, rather the proof that having open source drivers don't translate to support. If anything, it helped my decision to focus on Apple, Microsoft and Google platforms, and let go of "Year of Linux Desktop" mantra.

nsajko 6y ago

FTR: I use Archlinux and the Archlinux maintainers take care of all of this for me.