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Communist party/politics aside, I agree that the beginning of the book had seriously next-level sci-fi creativity, but the last third of the book really rushed

Communist party/politics aside, I agree that the beginning of the book had seriously next-level sci-fi creativity, but the last third of the book really rushed the plot. 3bp also would've benefitted from a smaller cast with more character development. Still, great material overall. Can't wait to see an eventual 3bp movie.

actuator 6y ago
> 3bp also would've benefitted from a smaller cast with more character development. Maybe it was because of my non familiarity with Chinese names or lack of detail to a lot of characters, that I had to constantly look back to see names if they appeared again after a while. I am not sure why this happened as I have read Manga or Manhwa in the past and have been able to hold a lot more characters in memory.
- webmaven 6y ago
  > Maybe it was because of my non familiarity with Chinese names or lack of detail to a lot of characters, that I had to constantly look back to see names if they appeared again after a while. I am not sure why this happened as I have read Manga or Manhwa in the past and have been able to hold a lot more characters in memory. I had a similar problem, but don't think it was a lack of character details, but rather that the dialog seems rather undifferentiated. What distinguished one character from another was only what they say, and almost never how they say it.
- alpineidyll3 6y ago
  I found the number of interesting characters with good realization impressive. Also characters of both genders were almost equally well realized. It just too bad he couldn't bring meaningful resolutions to 90% of them.
tmp538394722 6y ago
The huge cast of characters was definitely a challenge for me as well. But I wonder sometimes if it’s more a cultural difference than simply some kind of “failure” on the authors part. Have you seen those videos where old communist leaders gave speeches, they declare some good news, some achievement, and the crowd claps and cheers, and so does the leader. Watch Stalin, watch Mao. To a westerner it looks like they are clapping for themself - taking credit for the victory. But in communism, the results are not that of a “brilliant leader”, but rather the results of history unfolding. They aren’t clapping for themselves, but for society’s progression. I think, similarly in this way, 3bp doesn’t have the “hero narrative” that western authors favor, because the protagonist of 3bp is society as a whole, while the characters themselves are just minor witnesses.
- Brian_K_White 6y ago
  Same idea: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-real-reason-fans-hate-the-last-season-of-game-of-thrones/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-real-r...

actuator 6y ago

> 3bp also would've benefitted from a smaller cast with more character development. Maybe it was because of my non familiarity with Chinese names or lack of detail to a lot of characters, that I had to constantly look back to see names if they appeared again after a while. I am not sure why this happened as I have read Manga or Manhwa in the past and have been able to hold a lot more characters in memory.

webmaven 6y ago
> Maybe it was because of my non familiarity with Chinese names or lack of detail to a lot of characters, that I had to constantly look back to see names if they appeared again after a while. I am not sure why this happened as I have read Manga or Manhwa in the past and have been able to hold a lot more characters in memory. I had a similar problem, but don't think it was a lack of character details, but rather that the dialog seems rather undifferentiated. What distinguished one character from another was only what they say, and almost never how they say it.
alpineidyll3 6y ago
I found the number of interesting characters with good realization impressive. Also characters of both genders were almost equally well realized. It just too bad he couldn't bring meaningful resolutions to 90% of them.

tmp538394722 6y ago

The huge cast of characters was definitely a challenge for me as well. But I wonder sometimes if it’s more a cultural difference than simply some kind of “failure” on the authors part. Have you seen those videos where old communist leaders gave speeches, they declare some good news, some achievement, and the crowd claps and cheers, and so does the leader. Watch Stalin, watch Mao. To a westerner it looks like they are clapping for themself - taking credit for the victory. But in communism, the results are not that of a “brilliant leader”, but rather the results of history unfolding. They aren’t clapping for themselves, but for society’s progression. I think, similarly in this way, 3bp doesn’t have the “hero narrative” that western authors favor, because the protagonist of 3bp is society as a whole, while the characters themselves are just minor witnesses.

Brian_K_White 6y ago
Same idea: https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-real-reason-fans-hate-the-last-season-of-game-of-thrones/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/the-real-r...