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Also age - it's actually possible to lose 10kg of fat and gain 5kg of muscle in 60 days without any testosterone or whatever boosters when you're 22. I have a v

Also age - it's actually possible to lose 10kg of fat and gain 5kg of muscle in 60 days without any testosterone or whatever boosters when you're 22. I have a very, very hard time believing you can do this at age 48-50, like Josh Brolin did to play Thanos.

WalterBright 6y ago
When I was 20 and started lifting regularly, I put on a lot of muscle very fast. But I plateaued in about 6 months and was never able to go past that. I didn't do any steriods, because a friend of mine went from "pillsbury doughboy" (his assessment) to very jacked in about 9 months. He used steroids, and was shocked to find he'd lost a couple inches in height. The doc told him it was the steroids, and even worse, he'd still lose the usual height when he aged (we all shrink as we age). He was pretty bummed about it, but still became very popular with the ladies and was happy about that.
- treis 6y ago
  >He used steroids, and was shocked to find he'd lost a couple inches in height. The doc told him it was the steroids, and even worse, he'd still lose the usual height when he aged (we all shrink as we age). The things people believe constantly amaze me. Steroids don't make people shrink.
  - WalterBright 6y ago
    "Smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol or caffeine excessively, extreme dieting and taking steroids and other medications can exacerbate height loss." https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424053111904194604576580720025344668 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424053111904194604576580... Googling "do people get shorter as they age steroids" yields many more references to this.
    - treis 6y ago
      I did google that and found nothing that said that steroids would cause a healthy 20 something man to lose a couple inches in height. Your quote is quite wishy washy and not really supporting evidence to your claim.
      - WalterBright 6y ago
        Nevertheless, steroids are still implicated in height loss. He took a lot of steroids (I don't know which ones), his doctor told him that was the cause, and nothing else accounted for it. Anyone considering steroids should consult with a physician first. Me, I wasn't willing to take the risk.
      - DoreenMichele 6y ago
        Try searching for "steroids osteoporosis." It's a known thing they can cause osteoporosis and osteoporosis can cause height loss.
        treis 6y ago
        Those are corticosteroids not anabolic steroids. If you search anabolic steroids osteoprosis you will see that there is some evidence they should be prescribed to help reverse osteoperosis.
        DoreenMichele 6y ago
        OP already stated they don't know what kind of steroids were used. It's an anecdote and third-hand information, at best. Maybe OP misremembered something. Maybe the doctor was wrong or simply trying to convince the guy to stop using steroids. Maybe the guy lied about what really happened to protect their medical privacy. None of us is in any position to determine what really happened. Facts as I understand them: OP chose to not use steroids themselves because of scary story from person they knew. Everything else is damn near wild conjecture as to "what really happened."
- SuoDuanDao 6y ago
  I wonder whether this height-reducing effect relates to the 'manlet' jokes one sees in various places online. There does seem to be a bit of an overlap in the demographics where one would see the two.

WalterBright 6y ago

When I was 20 and started lifting regularly, I put on a lot of muscle very fast. But I plateaued in about 6 months and was never able to go past that. I didn't do any steriods, because a friend of mine went from "pillsbury doughboy" (his assessment) to very jacked in about 9 months. He used steroids, and was shocked to find he'd lost a couple inches in height. The doc told him it was the steroids, and even worse, he'd still lose the usual height when he aged (we all shrink as we age). He was pretty bummed about it, but still became very popular with the ladies and was happy about that.

treis 6y ago
>He used steroids, and was shocked to find he'd lost a couple inches in height. The doc told him it was the steroids, and even worse, he'd still lose the usual height when he aged (we all shrink as we age). The things people believe constantly amaze me. Steroids don't make people shrink.
- WalterBright 6y ago
  "Smoking cigarettes, drinking alcohol or caffeine excessively, extreme dieting and taking steroids and other medications can exacerbate height loss." https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424053111904194604576580720025344668 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424053111904194604576580... Googling "do people get shorter as they age steroids" yields many more references to this.
  - treis 6y ago
    I did google that and found nothing that said that steroids would cause a healthy 20 something man to lose a couple inches in height. Your quote is quite wishy washy and not really supporting evidence to your claim.
    - WalterBright 6y ago
      Nevertheless, steroids are still implicated in height loss. He took a lot of steroids (I don't know which ones), his doctor told him that was the cause, and nothing else accounted for it. Anyone considering steroids should consult with a physician first. Me, I wasn't willing to take the risk.
    - DoreenMichele 6y ago
      Try searching for "steroids osteoporosis." It's a known thing they can cause osteoporosis and osteoporosis can cause height loss.
      - treis 6y ago
        Those are corticosteroids not anabolic steroids. If you search anabolic steroids osteoprosis you will see that there is some evidence they should be prescribed to help reverse osteoperosis.
        DoreenMichele 6y ago
        OP already stated they don't know what kind of steroids were used. It's an anecdote and third-hand information, at best. Maybe OP misremembered something. Maybe the doctor was wrong or simply trying to convince the guy to stop using steroids. Maybe the guy lied about what really happened to protect their medical privacy. None of us is in any position to determine what really happened. Facts as I understand them: OP chose to not use steroids themselves because of scary story from person they knew. Everything else is damn near wild conjecture as to "what really happened."
SuoDuanDao 6y ago
I wonder whether this height-reducing effect relates to the 'manlet' jokes one sees in various places online. There does seem to be a bit of an overlap in the demographics where one would see the two.