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So Wrestling, Judo, BJJ, MMA, Boxing aren't real sports? Golf isn't a sport? Baseball, Basketball, Football, Volleyball, and Soccer are all won on points not se

So Wrestling, Judo, BJJ, MMA, Boxing aren't real sports? Golf isn't a sport? Baseball, Basketball, Football, Volleyball, and Soccer are all won on points not seconds/meters. Power lifting? I can really go on all day. You might not care for the sport but that doesn't make it any less valid as a sport.

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Alex3917 6y ago
Those are all games. Sports are things like running, cycling, rowing, cross country skiing, ski jumping, shot put, etc.
- samatman 6y ago
  Your definition is etymologically backward. A sport is anything diverting or entertaining which humans do for leisure. Hence, being a good sport, sporting around, and declaring dastardly behaviour to be "not sporting". The International Olympic Committee considers chess to be a sport. And they're correct to do so.
  - Fricken 6y ago
    There is play, which does not have clearly defined rules. Then there are games, which is play but with rules, but need not be competitive. If it's competitive play with rules, then it's a sport.
- Jtsummers 6y ago
  The distinction between sports and games is less well-defined than you seem to believe it is. Some sports trend towards a more pure physical competition form (running, cycling), others towards a game-like competition (soccer, football). It's not all raw physical ability, which generally shows up in purer athletic competitions like track and field, but also skill (wrestling being a combination of athleticism and skill).
- ameister14 6y ago
  what about shooting?
  - rjsw 6y ago
    It, along with hunting and fishing are the canonical list of sports, everything else is a game.
- jaegerpicker 6y ago
  Combat SPORTS (MMA, Wrestling, BJJ, Judo, Sambo etc...) aren't games. You don't play Wrestling for example. That is an exceedingly narrow definition of sport and one that I think does a large disservice to Athletes.
MegaDeKay 6y ago
You're right of course. Unfortunately sports where the opinion of a judge figures strongly, like figure skating, suffer from inconsistent judging. You see this even in power lifting when a high squat gets white lighted. Power lifting could really benefit from some rule tweaks as well: being super flexible lets you crank the hell out of your back arch and minimize range of motion to comically small amounts at times [0]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ADqvqgnsI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ADqvqgnsI

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Alex3917 6y ago

Those are all games. Sports are things like running, cycling, rowing, cross country skiing, ski jumping, shot put, etc.

samatman 6y ago
Your definition is etymologically backward. A sport is anything diverting or entertaining which humans do for leisure. Hence, being a good sport, sporting around, and declaring dastardly behaviour to be "not sporting". The International Olympic Committee considers chess to be a sport. And they're correct to do so.
- Fricken 6y ago
  There is play, which does not have clearly defined rules. Then there are games, which is play but with rules, but need not be competitive. If it's competitive play with rules, then it's a sport.
Jtsummers 6y ago
The distinction between sports and games is less well-defined than you seem to believe it is. Some sports trend towards a more pure physical competition form (running, cycling), others towards a game-like competition (soccer, football). It's not all raw physical ability, which generally shows up in purer athletic competitions like track and field, but also skill (wrestling being a combination of athleticism and skill).
ameister14 6y ago
what about shooting?
- rjsw 6y ago
  It, along with hunting and fishing are the canonical list of sports, everything else is a game.
jaegerpicker 6y ago
Combat SPORTS (MMA, Wrestling, BJJ, Judo, Sambo etc...) aren't games. You don't play Wrestling for example. That is an exceedingly narrow definition of sport and one that I think does a large disservice to Athletes.

MegaDeKay 6y ago

You're right of course. Unfortunately sports where the opinion of a judge figures strongly, like figure skating, suffer from inconsistent judging. You see this even in power lifting when a high squat gets white lighted. Power lifting could really benefit from some rule tweaks as well: being super flexible lets you crank the hell out of your back arch and minimize range of motion to comically small amounts at times [0]. [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ADqvqgnsI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7ADqvqgnsI