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Gun owners are a minority in this country. The average american doesnt own one, let alone ten. The minority just is lou.d as hell. The NRA used to be a reasona

Gun owners are a minority in this country. The average american doesnt own one, let alone ten. The minority just is lou.d as hell. The NRA used to be a reasonable organization with a reasonable mission. Then it went batshit crazy

claytongulick 6y ago
Do you have a source for this? It was my understanding that the majority of American households owned at least one firearm. Edit: I found this [1], but the numbers seem a bit questionable. Even if you take them at face value, 44% doesn't seem to qualify as a vocal minority. https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own...
- paulie_a 6y ago
  Household is different than person Just because someones father has a gun doesnt make the kid a gunowner or say anything about their attitude towards 2A
  - zepto 6y ago
    Sure, so let’s stop counting those people as though they are against gun ownership.
    - paulie_a 6y ago
      Im just saying that they are automatically being included as pro gun whereas the measurement should be individual gun ownership. Not the household stat which is obviously used to make it look more impressive. And remember it's not binary, a lot of people are indifferent and many want more gun restrictions and some want less Back to my original point is the average american does not own a gun
      - zepto 6y ago
        > the average American does not own a gun Remember it’s not binary - the average American owns approximately 40% of a gun.
        galangalalgol 6y ago
        Actually if we do the math that way everyone owns about 1.1 guns.
        zepto 6y ago
        Not really - if people own guns for home defense, then it’s reasonable not to buy one for each person in a household, and yet those people are still part of a gun owning group that happens not to need one each. I presume each family member in such a household doesn’t each own their own vacuum cleaner or stove, either. It’s not reasonable to count all these people as ‘gun owners’ in their own right, but it’s also not reasonable to pretend it’s binary.
galangalalgol 6y ago
That is true, less than a third. That is a pretty large minority as minorities go. And almost half 48% live in a house with a firearm. 72% have fired one. It isn't an unusual aspect of life in the US by any definition.

claytongulick 6y ago

Do you have a source for this? It was my understanding that the majority of American households owned at least one firearm. Edit: I found this [1], but the numbers seem a bit questionable. Even if you take them at face value, 44% doesn't seem to qualify as a vocal minority. https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own-guns.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own...

paulie_a 6y ago
Household is different than person Just because someones father has a gun doesnt make the kid a gunowner or say anything about their attitude towards 2A
- zepto 6y ago
  Sure, so let’s stop counting those people as though they are against gun ownership.
  - paulie_a 6y ago
    Im just saying that they are automatically being included as pro gun whereas the measurement should be individual gun ownership. Not the household stat which is obviously used to make it look more impressive. And remember it's not binary, a lot of people are indifferent and many want more gun restrictions and some want less Back to my original point is the average american does not own a gun
    - zepto 6y ago
      > the average American does not own a gun Remember it’s not binary - the average American owns approximately 40% of a gun.
      - galangalalgol 6y ago
        Actually if we do the math that way everyone owns about 1.1 guns.
        zepto 6y ago
        Not really - if people own guns for home defense, then it’s reasonable not to buy one for each person in a household, and yet those people are still part of a gun owning group that happens not to need one each. I presume each family member in such a household doesn’t each own their own vacuum cleaner or stove, either. It’s not reasonable to count all these people as ‘gun owners’ in their own right, but it’s also not reasonable to pretend it’s binary.

galangalalgol 6y ago

That is true, less than a third. That is a pretty large minority as minorities go. And almost half 48% live in a house with a firearm. 72% have fired one. It isn't an unusual aspect of life in the US by any definition.