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Go and rent a place in one of the many places that do receive this waves of migrants. Talk to people.
by iagovar 6y ago
Go and rent a place in one of the many places that do receive this waves of migrants. Talk to people.
- lampe3 6y agoYes I believe they are pretty annoyed by all of them and yeah they live in bad conditions. But that enough for having an company that kills? people? Maybe we should try to solve the problem in another way...
- arendtio 6y agoThe problem is everybody is looking at the symptom and wants to keep the poor people from moving to new places, yet nobody seems to care about the causes why they are leaving their homes. One example is the European food industry that exports milk products to Africa and disrupts the local economy, so people loose their jobs. But instead of regulating our industries to allow African countries to build up their own economies, we ramp up our forces to let those poor people die in the moat we call the Mediterranean. Instead of looking at the migrants, we should ask, what we, our organizations and especially our corporations are contributing to the problem. After all, how many rich migrants have you seen and how often are poor people the ones who control the situation?
- liaukovv 6y agoShouldn't africans solve their own problems? Isn't that what decolonialization was all about? I find your point of view rather insulting, implying that big white saviour must come and what? Build functioning society from outside? Impose "correct" government? Maybe send waves of missionaries to teach them how to live?
- malthejorgensen 6y agoColonialism still exists in the form of lopsided trade economics. Most of Africa is not able to trade freely with EU, creating a favorable economic situation for the EU. I'm not sure the milk example is a good one, but historically (post-colonialism) most value gained from mining in Africa has been gained by companies in the EU -- not much value gained for the African countries and citizens. This is due to the lopsided trade agreements but also corporate exploitation of the African countries. The African countries needs our help in the form of proper free-trade agreements, and in the form of us not meddling with their natural resources. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bilateral_free-trade_agreements https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bilateral_free-trade_a...
- liaukovv 6y agoEurope deciding on both parts of trade agreements is literally colonialism. If africans don't like current trade agreements they are free to exit them and negotiate with chinese instead.
- arendtio 6y agoIn principle, you are right and this should at least be done in cooperation with African states. But it isn't about being a savior or missionary, it is about not being a bully. Simply letting advanced industries compete with local farmers isn't going to work out. In Europe, twelve people can run six farms with hundreds of cows each. In Africa twelve people work with two cows. In addition, European farmers receive subsidies, so that they work with lower cost and can compete with Chinese factories. I am not sure how much African politicians can do alone about such dynamics. And as the migration problem shows us, we have shared interests here.
- liaukovv 6y agoWe already have a success recipe in form of china and other asian nations. They start in position at the bottom of the economic food chain and work their way up, acquiring know-how and finding their place in the world. Charity is not necessary and probably harmful.
- arendtio 6y agoIsn't that comparison a bit off? When exactly did the Chinese drowned by the thousands in the ocean just to migrate from their home country? And how is that period related to the latest success of their economy?
- LunaSea 6y agoWell there there were the Opium wars, the English & French invasions followed by the Japanese invasions.