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“We have a technical term for this. It’s called Open Kimono.” That’s such a weird thing to be a technical term. Is there some history to this phrase? Technical

“We have a technical term for this. It’s called Open Kimono.” That’s such a weird thing to be a technical term. Is there some history to this phrase? Technical terms in my field tend to be more technical in nature and less focused on one’s schlong.

airstrike 6y ago
People say that all of the time in Investment Banking and I cringe on every instance... Always such an uncomfortable mental image. Why not say "lay down the cards" or something like that?
- 74d-fe6-2c6 6y ago
  Similar to German expression "die Hose runterlassen" (pulling down the pants).
- Evidlo 6y ago
  What mental image? It's not like you're naked under there.
  - airstrike 6y ago
    I think the idea is that the one opening the kimono is doing so to reveal everything that is beneath it, so they are, in fact, "naked under there"
LatteLazy 6y ago
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/open-kimono.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/open-kimono.asp I think its more management bullshit speak than actual technical term. Apparently it comes from feudal Japan when people would open their kimonos to should there were no weapons hidden there (may be BS). I guess it like shaking hands in that sense.
- _puk 6y ago
  Or the origin of the salute [0] - raising one's visor to show that you're friendly. [0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute
pimlottc 6y ago
Not to defend the term itself, but like with many items of culturally historic clothing that have since become fetishized, people normally wore practical underclothes underneath kimonos. That way, you don't have to change or wash your bulky, elaborate outerwear so often, just the layers that touch your skin. It's also more comfortable and easier to customize the inner layers to suit your particular body.
diab0lic 6y ago
I had also understood it as a feudal Japanese term referring to revealing you have no blades hidden underneath. A reveal that must happen before a civil conversation can begin. Also I don’t think people are naked beneath their kimonos.
- dmingod666 6y ago
  made me laugh out loud
- dboreham 6y ago
  No true Scotsman of course.

airstrike 6y ago

People say that all of the time in Investment Banking and I cringe on every instance... Always such an uncomfortable mental image. Why not say "lay down the cards" or something like that?

74d-fe6-2c6 6y ago
Similar to German expression "die Hose runterlassen" (pulling down the pants).
Evidlo 6y ago
What mental image? It's not like you're naked under there.
- airstrike 6y ago
  I think the idea is that the one opening the kimono is doing so to reveal everything that is beneath it, so they are, in fact, "naked under there"

LatteLazy 6y ago

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/open-kimono.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/open-kimono.asp I think its more management bullshit speak than actual technical term. Apparently it comes from feudal Japan when people would open their kimonos to should there were no weapons hidden there (may be BS). I guess it like shaking hands in that sense.

_puk 6y ago
Or the origin of the salute [0] - raising one's visor to show that you're friendly. [0]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salute

pimlottc 6y ago

Not to defend the term itself, but like with many items of culturally historic clothing that have since become fetishized, people normally wore practical underclothes underneath kimonos. That way, you don't have to change or wash your bulky, elaborate outerwear so often, just the layers that touch your skin. It's also more comfortable and easier to customize the inner layers to suit your particular body.

diab0lic 6y ago

I had also understood it as a feudal Japanese term referring to revealing you have no blades hidden underneath. A reveal that must happen before a civil conversation can begin. Also I don’t think people are naked beneath their kimonos.

dmingod666 6y ago
made me laugh out loud
dboreham 6y ago
No true Scotsman of course.