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I tend to agree that ML will not itself be the subject, but rather a device or tool misused by Someone Bad. As you say, it's a necessary and integral piece of t

by bfdm 6y ago

I tend to agree that ML will not itself be the subject, but rather a device or tool misused by Someone Bad. As you say, it's a necessary and integral piece of the story, but not the star. For example, it brings to mind some combination of Minority Report and Eagle Eye, say. Where a surveillance state combined with ML analysis leads to something akin to pre-crime arrests and the fight back against that.

dllthomas 6y ago
If you haven't read Minority Report, I recommend it.
akovaski 6y ago
> Where a surveillance state combined with ML analysis leads to something akin to pre-crime arrests While I haven't seen Minority Report or Eagle Eye, this aptly describes the anime TV series Psycho-Pass (2012). If I remember correctly, the show is mostly focused on the effects of having a crime-coefficient system.
Izkata 6y ago
> I tend to agree that ML will not itself be the subject, but rather a device or tool misused by Someone Bad. I got a counterexample: Person of Interest [0] was a crime series from 2011-2016 premised around machine learning. The opening narration from each episode of the first season[1]: You are being watched. The government has a secret system, a machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because, I built it. I designed the machine to detect acts of terror but it sees everything. Violent crimes involving ordinary people. People like you. Crimes the government considered "irrelevant". They wouldn't act, so I decided I would. But I needed a partner, someone with the skills to intervene. Hunted by the authorities, we work in secret. You will never find us. But victim or perpetrator, if your number's up, we'll find you. Revealed in flashbacks over the first season, the government doesn't have access to the system. It runs independently (even from its creator) and just provides information. Being TV it does of course expand past the original premise, with a reveal that it's not just a machine learning system but the world's first true AI, and later another AI with conflicting goals is brought online. But for the first season at least, the machine sticks to the role described in the narration, and appears to be just a machine learning system. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_Interest_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_Interest_(TV_series) [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBfVndEtDyY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBfVndEtDyY

by bfdm 6y ago

dllthomas 6y ago

If you haven't read Minority Report, I recommend it.

akovaski 6y ago

> Where a surveillance state combined with ML analysis leads to something akin to pre-crime arrests While I haven't seen Minority Report or Eagle Eye, this aptly describes the anime TV series Psycho-Pass (2012). If I remember correctly, the show is mostly focused on the effects of having a crime-coefficient system.

Izkata 6y ago

> I tend to agree that ML will not itself be the subject, but rather a device or tool misused by Someone Bad. I got a counterexample: Person of Interest [0] was a crime series from 2011-2016 premised around machine learning. The opening narration from each episode of the first season[1]: You are being watched. The government has a secret system, a machine that spies on you every hour of every day. I know because, I built it. I designed the machine to detect acts of terror but it sees everything. Violent crimes involving ordinary people. People like you. Crimes the government considered "irrelevant". They wouldn't act, so I decided I would. But I needed a partner, someone with the skills to intervene. Hunted by the authorities, we work in secret. You will never find us. But victim or perpetrator, if your number's up, we'll find you. Revealed in flashbacks over the first season, the government doesn't have access to the system. It runs independently (even from its creator) and just provides information. Being TV it does of course expand past the original premise, with a reveal that it's not just a machine learning system but the world's first true AI, and later another AI with conflicting goals is brought online. But for the first season at least, the machine sticks to the role described in the narration, and appears to be just a machine learning system. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_Interest_(TV_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Person_of_Interest_(TV_series) [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBfVndEtDyY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBfVndEtDyY