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Next thing: run FreeBSD 13 natively on M1. It would be really nice, because even on this X230 this OS is really damn fast and snappy. Wayland and sway are super

by pimeys 6y ago

Next thing: run FreeBSD 13 natively on M1. It would be really nice, because even on this X230 this OS is really damn fast and snappy. Wayland and sway are super nice.

codetrotter 6y ago
Oh yes, that would be so good. I hope to see the Linux on M1 project work out, and that the learnings from those people could enable running FreeBSD natively on M1 too!
jamesfmilne 6y ago
Someone is working on getting OpenBSD running on Apple M1, I would imagine their work would be useful to assist porting FreeBSD too: https://twitter.com/bluerise/status/1354216838406823936 https://twitter.com/bluerise/status/1354216838406823936
webmobdev 6y ago
Doubt if that will ever happen as even older Intel Mac Minis still have issues running FreeBSD - https://wiki.freebsd.org/IntelMacMini https://wiki.freebsd.org/IntelMacMini
- tyingq 6y ago
  There's 5 open PRs. Two seem to be boot related, which probably wouldn't apply to the M1. The Xorg one and the drm one are related to an Intel integrated GPU. That leaves just the firewire one as possibly an issue. Though I get the general point that hardware drivers could be an issue. Perhaps, though, the upside of the M1 is sufficient incentive for people to figure it out.
  - pimeys 6y ago
    Maybe Apple does a favor for us and releases docs for their hardware, so it would be easier to write drivers for the open source operating systems. That would be the best news for 2021.
    - saagarjha 6y ago
      I would have been surprised if they did that before, and I certainly can’t see it happening now as they pull things out of the open source releases…
gautamcgoel 6y ago
Can you describe your desktop setup? What login manager do you use? Does Zoom work? Does usb 3 work?
- pimeys 6y ago
  I installed it to my fun and games laptop I carry with me when I travel. It's the ThinkPad X230 that is small enough and has hardware that Just Works with almost all the open source operating systems. I'm not planning to work with this, so I'm not really thinking about installing Zoom or any other closed source software. I have other computers for work business. I'm considering trying on jails and iocage to see if I can get something similar to docker, but it's not my biggest priority: I kind of like having a computer that I'm not doing work with all the time. What I now have is just a boot to console. I haven't decided on a login manager yet, so I just run `sway` to get to the desktop. I run sway window manager on wayland. I installed rust, emacs, vim, a music player ncmpcpp and firefox. It feels like this old laptop got lots of energy from this new setup.

by pimeys 6y ago

Next thing: run FreeBSD 13 natively on M1. It would be really nice, because even on this X230 this OS is really damn fast and snappy. Wayland and sway are super nice.

codetrotter 6y ago

Oh yes, that would be so good. I hope to see the Linux on M1 project work out, and that the learnings from those people could enable running FreeBSD natively on M1 too!

jamesfmilne 6y ago

Someone is working on getting OpenBSD running on Apple M1, I would imagine their work would be useful to assist porting FreeBSD too: https://twitter.com/bluerise/status/1354216838406823936 https://twitter.com/bluerise/status/1354216838406823936

webmobdev 6y ago

Doubt if that will ever happen as even older Intel Mac Minis still have issues running FreeBSD - https://wiki.freebsd.org/IntelMacMini https://wiki.freebsd.org/IntelMacMini

tyingq 6y ago
There's 5 open PRs. Two seem to be boot related, which probably wouldn't apply to the M1. The Xorg one and the drm one are related to an Intel integrated GPU. That leaves just the firewire one as possibly an issue. Though I get the general point that hardware drivers could be an issue. Perhaps, though, the upside of the M1 is sufficient incentive for people to figure it out.
- pimeys 6y ago
  Maybe Apple does a favor for us and releases docs for their hardware, so it would be easier to write drivers for the open source operating systems. That would be the best news for 2021.
  - saagarjha 6y ago
    I would have been surprised if they did that before, and I certainly can’t see it happening now as they pull things out of the open source releases…

gautamcgoel 6y ago

Can you describe your desktop setup? What login manager do you use? Does Zoom work? Does usb 3 work?

pimeys 6y ago
I installed it to my fun and games laptop I carry with me when I travel. It's the ThinkPad X230 that is small enough and has hardware that Just Works with almost all the open source operating systems. I'm not planning to work with this, so I'm not really thinking about installing Zoom or any other closed source software. I have other computers for work business. I'm considering trying on jails and iocage to see if I can get something similar to docker, but it's not my biggest priority: I kind of like having a computer that I'm not doing work with all the time. What I now have is just a boot to console. I haven't decided on a login manager yet, so I just run `sway` to get to the desktop. I run sway window manager on wayland. I installed rust, emacs, vim, a music player ncmpcpp and firefox. It feels like this old laptop got lots of energy from this new setup.