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Another interpretation: RSS "died" because it didn't do enough. RSS (even with WebSub) is unidirectional: you only retrieve content from someone and can't inte

by rakoo 6y ago

Another interpretation: RSS "died" because it didn't do enough. RSS (even with WebSub) is unidirectional: you only retrieve content from someone and can't interact with it. That's what indieweb people have been working on piece by piece, but the UX wasn't there until they came up with Social Readers (https://indieweb.org/social_reader https://indieweb.org/social_reader) recreating the whole Twitter/Facebook experience, this time with open protocols. The cool thing is that it's incremental: start with providing RSS and you can already be "followed" in the usual sense. Add some websub and your followers will see you in real-time. When people tell you they've written a comment on their website about your post on your website, automate a way to retrieve content at some url to display the reply under your post (definitely not the easiest to do). Sprinkle some webmentions and people can like, boost and reply to your stuff automatically. There definitely is a space here for someone to build this on larger scale.

SecurityLagoon 6y ago
I love RSS for this reason. Everything is so social media now it's nice to get away from it and just consume in my own way. If I feel the need to comment on something I will click the feed link to visit the website and comment (like this post) .
- rakoo 6y ago
  RSS, even alone, has a lot of value. I discovered Fraidycat the other day and by default the refresh rate are way way lower than usual, so it kind of follows the "slow web" movement: feeds are updated once a day, so you know there's no need to check the tab every 10 minutes. "Unfortunately" our use case is the minority and most people want a social network -like experience. That's where users are, and if RSS can't reach them they way they want websites won't implement RSS and will resort to private social networks. As much as we don't want to use websites that way we still need to make it possible so that the whole ecosystem can rely on it. Also, if you can do it with a website, you can subscribe to its RSS feed and never reply if you don't want to.

by rakoo 6y ago

SecurityLagoon 6y ago

I love RSS for this reason. Everything is so social media now it's nice to get away from it and just consume in my own way. If I feel the need to comment on something I will click the feed link to visit the website and comment (like this post) .

rakoo 6y ago
RSS, even alone, has a lot of value. I discovered Fraidycat the other day and by default the refresh rate are way way lower than usual, so it kind of follows the "slow web" movement: feeds are updated once a day, so you know there's no need to check the tab every 10 minutes. "Unfortunately" our use case is the minority and most people want a social network -like experience. That's where users are, and if RSS can't reach them they way they want websites won't implement RSS and will resort to private social networks. As much as we don't want to use websites that way we still need to make it possible so that the whole ecosystem can rely on it. Also, if you can do it with a website, you can subscribe to its RSS feed and never reply if you don't want to.