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From an athletic or 'health' perspective, these plant-based meat substitutes have way too high fat content. You can get 93+% lean beef with 3-4 grams of fat per

by diziet 6y ago

From an athletic or 'health' perspective, these plant-based meat substitutes have way too high fat content. You can get 93+% lean beef with 3-4 grams of fat per 20~ grams of protein, or even higher with game meat. None of the plant proteins appeal to a healthy eater, with the high coconut/canola/sunflower oil content.

travisporter 6y ago
I see it as them trying to compete with meat. Impossible has higher cholesterol content than beef right now, but I have a feeling this will change as the industry matures.
- travisporter 6y ago
  I stand corrected meant to say sat fat
- pinot 6y ago
  Plant-based foods cannot have cholesterol.
  - bpizzi 6y ago
    Moreover, there's no correlation between the LDL ingested and the degradated LDL that freely floats in arteries.
- xsmasher 6y ago
  > the Impossible Burger has 0 mg cholesterol, compared to a quarter-pound, conventional "80/20" patty from cows which has about 80 mg cholesterol. Fat and saturated fat is slightly higher; sodium is much higher.
atweiden 6y ago
> From an athletic or 'health' perspective, these plant-based meat substitutes have way too high fat content. You can get 93+% lean beef with 3-4 grams of fat per 20~ grams of protein, or even higher with game meat. None of the plant proteins appeal to a healthy eater, with the high coconut/canola/sunflower oil content. Agreed — but it's an apples to oranges comparison you're making. Highly processed foods of all sorts have added oil. A more productive line of questioning would compare game meat with whole food plant based alternatives like raw soybeans and lentils. I say this because my hangup with veganism used to be exactly yours here. I used to think there was no way to get adequate macros with vegan food, but it's definitely possible to hit your target macros with determination. Key to turning the corner in my understanding was realizing the fiber content (in grams) must be subtracted — at least in part — from the total carbohydrate content. Most legumes are essentially a 1:2 ratio between protein:carbs, with negligible amounts of fat. Assuming a target intake of 1.4-1.6g of protein per kg bodyweight, you can readily hit your macros even on a calorie restricted diet (~1600 kcal).
bpizzi 6y ago
> From an athletic or 'health' perspective, [...] You can get 93+% lean beef with 3-4 grams of fat per 20~ grams of protein Well, from a health perspective, what you really want as your main drive is high, low omega 6 vs omega 3, high quality fat, relatively low protein and the least carb you can do. Carb is not evil per se, a carb+protein based is, it leads to type 2 diabetes, and pave the way to cancer and cognitive dysfunctions, the key thing in those disease being recurrent and close insulin spikes. A beef with <5% of fat is a nutritional non-sense, this whole 'eat the least fat possible' fable needs to die. But otherwise I agree with you: plant-based meat-like patty is the worst you can eat (referring to their current recipes that are loaded with omega 6).

by diziet 6y ago

travisporter 6y ago

I see it as them trying to compete with meat. Impossible has higher cholesterol content than beef right now, but I have a feeling this will change as the industry matures.

travisporter 6y ago
I stand corrected meant to say sat fat
pinot 6y ago
Plant-based foods cannot have cholesterol.
- bpizzi 6y ago
  Moreover, there's no correlation between the LDL ingested and the degradated LDL that freely floats in arteries.
xsmasher 6y ago
> the Impossible Burger has 0 mg cholesterol, compared to a quarter-pound, conventional "80/20" patty from cows which has about 80 mg cholesterol. Fat and saturated fat is slightly higher; sodium is much higher.

atweiden 6y ago

> From an athletic or 'health' perspective, these plant-based meat substitutes have way too high fat content. You can get 93+% lean beef with 3-4 grams of fat per 20~ grams of protein, or even higher with game meat. None of the plant proteins appeal to a healthy eater, with the high coconut/canola/sunflower oil content. Agreed — but it's an apples to oranges comparison you're making. Highly processed foods of all sorts have added oil. A more productive line of questioning would compare game meat with whole food plant based alternatives like raw soybeans and lentils. I say this because my hangup with veganism used to be exactly yours here. I used to think there was no way to get adequate macros with vegan food, but it's definitely possible to hit your target macros with determination. Key to turning the corner in my understanding was realizing the fiber content (in grams) must be subtracted — at least in part — from the total carbohydrate content. Most legumes are essentially a 1:2 ratio between protein:carbs, with negligible amounts of fat. Assuming a target intake of 1.4-1.6g of protein per kg bodyweight, you can readily hit your macros even on a calorie restricted diet (~1600 kcal).

bpizzi 6y ago

> From an athletic or 'health' perspective, [...] You can get 93+% lean beef with 3-4 grams of fat per 20~ grams of protein Well, from a health perspective, what you really want as your main drive is high, low omega 6 vs omega 3, high quality fat, relatively low protein and the least carb you can do. Carb is not evil per se, a carb+protein based is, it leads to type 2 diabetes, and pave the way to cancer and cognitive dysfunctions, the key thing in those disease being recurrent and close insulin spikes. A beef with <5% of fat is a nutritional non-sense, this whole 'eat the least fat possible' fable needs to die. But otherwise I agree with you: plant-based meat-like patty is the worst you can eat (referring to their current recipes that are loaded with omega 6).