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I catch myself feeling that way, too, but it is uncharitable and inaccurate. They do work a lot of work on developing the language. The issue is that sometimes
by jpadvo 15y ago
I catch myself feeling that way, too, but it is uncharitable and inaccurate. They do work a lot of work on developing the language. The issue is that sometimes their idea of what is should be differs from the idea that most people have.
- etfb 15y agoI don't think it's possible to be too uncharitable about the developers of PHP. Courtesy demands that we give them the benefit of the doubt; but by this stage there is very little doubt left, so very little benefit as well.
- nir 15y agothe language they built and let everyone in the world use for free powers sites from wikileaks to whitehouse.gov, and its simplicity allowed a lot of non-programmers to write working code and sometimes even start new careers. so it is possible to be too uncharitable about them. that decision, though, is unfortunate IMHO. esp seeing that the userland votes are overwhelmingly pro while the devs are con.
- jpadvo 15y agoIf courtesy means giving undeserved benefit of the doubt, I'm all for discourtesy. This is about rational discourse. The statement that "It's like they don't even _want_ to fix the language" is inaccurate. It does not relate to the state of things in the real world. Accusing the developers of some warped intent to keep it in a broken state is an understandable expression of frustration, but it does nothing to advance our discussion and contributes to a misunderstanding of the situation.