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Yeah it's almost perfect, the only inaccuracy is that the district is just "Gudang" and "tang" is part of the road name (i.e. "Tangmiao Road"). If you check th

Yeah it's almost perfect, the only inaccuracy is that the district is just "Gudang" and "tang" is part of the road name (i.e. "Tangmiao Road"). If you check the location on Google Maps you can see it's Tangmiao Road and Gudang District (the "District" part is not present in the address): https://www.google.com/maps/place/Huaxing+Modern+Industrial+Park/@30.2750951,120.1220554,15.75z/data=!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x0:0x30374d249c5d4b27!2sHuaxing+Modern+Industrial+Park!8m2!3d30.2751337!4d120.1218653!3m4!1s0x0:0x30374d249c5d4b27!8m2!3d30.2751337!4d120.1218653?hl=en https://www.google.com/maps/place/Huaxing+Modern+Industrial+... Without context it's a good attempt, only with deeper cultural knowledge would someone be able to guess that "Miao" on its own is too short for a street name and it's likely "Tangmiao" together, though without knowing the place I think it would also be reasonable to guess that the whole thing is the road name like "Gudangtangmiao Road". I guess using Google Maps to validate Google Translate is kinda questionable so here's the same location on Bing Maps: https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=d3dfc1f0-f8ed-48cd-898d-0a765fb98ee7&cp=30.27431~120.121215&lvl=18&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027 https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=d3dfc1f0-f8ed-48cd-898d-0a765...

yorwba 6y ago
DeepL does get the segmentation correct: "Main entrance of Block E of Huaxing Modern Industrial Park, Gudang Tangmiao Road" https://www.deepl.com/translator#zh/en/%E5%8F%A4%E8%8D%A1%E5%A1%98%E8%8B%97%E8%B7%AF%E5%8D%8E%E6%98%9F%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E4%BA%A7%E4%B8%9A%E5%9B%ADE%E5%BA%A7%E6%AD%A3%E9%97%A8 https://www.deepl.com/translator#zh/en/%E5%8F%A4%E8%8D%A1%E5...
- eruci 6y ago
  Actually DeepL seems to be the best of the bunch. Here is another test: Input: 北京市西城区地安门西大街49号 DeepL: No.49, Di'anmen West Street, Xicheng District, Beijing Google: 49 Di'anmen West Street, Xicheng District, Beijing Watson: No. 49 Avenue West Main Street in Xicheng District, Beijing Libre: 49th Anniversary Street, Westtown, Beijing (Libre is the worst for all address type input - which is what I'm interested in - shameless plug - I'm building a Geocoder from China at https://geocode.xyz/CN https://geocode.xyz/CN . I've so far tested over 3k addresses)
  - jimz 6y ago
    Deepl seems to have a bit of an issue with uncommon street suffixes in Chinese. For example: 江苏省苏州市姑苏区东中市374号槔桥头 Google: Bridge Head, No. 374, Dongzhong City, Gusu District, Suzhou City, Jiangsu Province Deepl: Pulley Bridge, No. 374, Dongzhong City, Gusu District, Suzhou, Jiangsu Province Libre: Cambridge No. 374 in the eastern part of the city of Jiangsu, province of Jiangsu Watson: No. 374 Bridge Head in East China, Suzhou, Suzhou, Jiangsu Province. You can kind of see which service goes for the literal more than the interpretive. It might be a bit unfair to use an address that is more than just the literal street address, although in actual speech, this address is at an intersection with two bridges and it's enough of a local landmark that the addition would make sense. Except for the uncertainty over the proper name of the bridge that actually doesn't throw Google or Deepl off. It's the 市suffix for a street, not unique in this city but certainly rare, that gets all of the services. Libre at least gives it a try, Watson just pretends like it doesn't exist and for whatever reason translates the old name of the city to the new name of the city, which obviously now encompasses a much greater area and exists in a different context. Deepl seems to have figured out that you aren't really supposed to have two cities in one address and tries to rectify that in spite of the literal. I would imagine that a human translator would use the entirety of the street name and add "street" in English to the end. Definitely interesting to see how these services handle somewhat nonstandard and much older address patterns that don't originate necessarily in Mandarin and frequently relates to local landmarks that no longer exist, all of which requires some contextual work beyond your standaard post-1949 naming of streets that tends to be fairly standardized both thematically and in form.
  - guilamu 6y ago
    Deepl is the best in 99% of the case. I have no idea how they managed to get so much better than other players in the translating game.

yorwba 6y ago

DeepL does get the segmentation correct: "Main entrance of Block E of Huaxing Modern Industrial Park, Gudang Tangmiao Road" https://www.deepl.com/translator#zh/en/%E5%8F%A4%E8%8D%A1%E5%A1%98%E8%8B%97%E8%B7%AF%E5%8D%8E%E6%98%9F%E7%8E%B0%E4%BB%A3%E4%BA%A7%E4%B8%9A%E5%9B%ADE%E5%BA%A7%E6%AD%A3%E9%97%A8 https://www.deepl.com/translator#zh/en/%E5%8F%A4%E8%8D%A1%E5...

eruci 6y ago
Actually DeepL seems to be the best of the bunch. Here is another test: Input: 北京市西城区地安门西大街49号 DeepL: No.49, Di'anmen West Street, Xicheng District, Beijing Google: 49 Di'anmen West Street, Xicheng District, Beijing Watson: No. 49 Avenue West Main Street in Xicheng District, Beijing Libre: 49th Anniversary Street, Westtown, Beijing (Libre is the worst for all address type input - which is what I'm interested in - shameless plug - I'm building a Geocoder from China at https://geocode.xyz/CN https://geocode.xyz/CN . I've so far tested over 3k addresses)
- jimz 6y ago
  Deepl seems to have a bit of an issue with uncommon street suffixes in Chinese. For example: 江苏省苏州市姑苏区东中市374号槔桥头 Google: Bridge Head, No. 374, Dongzhong City, Gusu District, Suzhou City, Jiangsu Province Deepl: Pulley Bridge, No. 374, Dongzhong City, Gusu District, Suzhou, Jiangsu Province Libre: Cambridge No. 374 in the eastern part of the city of Jiangsu, province of Jiangsu Watson: No. 374 Bridge Head in East China, Suzhou, Suzhou, Jiangsu Province. You can kind of see which service goes for the literal more than the interpretive. It might be a bit unfair to use an address that is more than just the literal street address, although in actual speech, this address is at an intersection with two bridges and it's enough of a local landmark that the addition would make sense. Except for the uncertainty over the proper name of the bridge that actually doesn't throw Google or Deepl off. It's the 市suffix for a street, not unique in this city but certainly rare, that gets all of the services. Libre at least gives it a try, Watson just pretends like it doesn't exist and for whatever reason translates the old name of the city to the new name of the city, which obviously now encompasses a much greater area and exists in a different context. Deepl seems to have figured out that you aren't really supposed to have two cities in one address and tries to rectify that in spite of the literal. I would imagine that a human translator would use the entirety of the street name and add "street" in English to the end. Definitely interesting to see how these services handle somewhat nonstandard and much older address patterns that don't originate necessarily in Mandarin and frequently relates to local landmarks that no longer exist, all of which requires some contextual work beyond your standaard post-1949 naming of streets that tends to be fairly standardized both thematically and in form.
- guilamu 6y ago
  Deepl is the best in 99% of the case. I have no idea how they managed to get so much better than other players in the translating game.