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Just image if this happens on the new Model S Plaid and Model X. Both are suppose to have the gear selector on the touch screen with the car guessing weather y
by jmisavage 6y ago
Just image if this happens on the new Model S Plaid and Model X. Both are suppose to have the gear selector on the touch screen with the car guessing weather you are in drive, park, or reverse based on your surroundings. If you screen dies and it guesses wrong they you are stuck.
- https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1354680585139187713 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1354680585139187713
- naebother 6y agoNo way that's actually getting approved by NHTSA.
- apfsx 6y agoThis can't end up well. The Tesla's get a lot of stuff right but trying to get everything into that touch screen is a mistake in my eyes.
- hctaw 6y agoI really don't think they get that much right. Everything above the drive train is subpar for vehicles much cheaper than theirs, and now it's become clear that they're less reliable too.
- Hamuko 6y agoThey also moved the indicators to the steering wheel in what looks like touch capacitive buttons. That also seems like a mistake to me over an actual stalk.
- dillondoyle 6y agoIs that what those circle things are on the wheel? Musk's reply sounds like their AI will automatically turn the left/right on and you have to over ride with a touch screen - which to me sounded like a center console... Either way based on the many posts/videos on their current ML I don't think either is a good idea.
- Hamuko 6y agoI don't think they're "circle things". You're probably confusing them for the normal steering wheel controls that were already in the Model 3. https://twitter.com/DriveTeslaca/status/1354588881786605570 https://twitter.com/DriveTeslaca/status/1354588881786605570
- dillondoyle 6y agooh thanks for that tweet. those 'turn signal buttons' are so faint at least in the photos yeah I dont drive let alone a tesla and i still have no idea what those shiny (glass?) circles do lol
- knolax 6y agoIt should be illegal to make a gear selector with no tactile feedback. People have died from poorly designed gear selectors. Having the car guess the direction you drive in also sounds like the most braindead thing ever. It won't be long before someone dies from this.
- jiggawatts 6y agoPeople have died from poorly designed gear selector levels. Anton Yelchin, the actor that played Chekov in the recent Start Trek films died because his Jeep Grand Cherokee has a "joystick" style control for the Park gear selector. It wasn't obvious that it was properly engaged. He got out, the car rolled down an incline, and pinned him against a brick wall until the life was squeezed from his body. Elon Musk likes to joke that cars are two-ton death machines, but this stuff is no joke. https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/20/11978044/anton-yelchin-jeep-recall-confusing-design-gear-lever https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/20/11978044/anton-yelchin-je... https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/22/12007862/fca-jeep-grand-cherokee-gear-lever-recall-anton-yelchin https://www.theverge.com/2016/6/22/12007862/fca-jeep-grand-c...
- oyashirochama 6y agoIt was worse, they could be in "P" but randomly were known to slip out of park, which is terrible design and safety.
- athms 6y agoNo, the 2015 Grand Cherokee shifter doesn't randomly change gears. There are known cases of it being accidentally hit from a passenger since there is no locking mechanism. That said, it is standard procedure to engage the parking brake and anybody that doesn't is a bad driver.
- athms 6y agoThat car had two indicators for park, on the center console and the dashboard which Yelchin ignored. Plus, he never engaged the parking brake, which is standard procedure. His death was his own fault.
- noelsusman 6y agoI'm extremely skeptical that will ever make it to production.