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>This is pretty rich in an article about misinformation. If people had worn masks, we would have better outcomes. If we had locked down, it would have been over

by konjin 6y ago

>This is pretty rich in an article about misinformation. If people had worn masks, we would have better outcomes. If we had locked down, it would have been over already. Full stop. How is this confusing? Are you prepared to close the borders and imprison anyone who tries to come in indefinitely? This is what Australia does to illegal immigrants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sovereign_Borders https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Sovereign_Borders The camps have been condemned as concentration camps by amnesty international. NZ benefits from this policy since it is a further 6,000 km from the usual point of attempted entry into Australia. You can't pick a third of the policies you like and ignore the ones you don't. I find it astonishing that 'left' people in Australia have taken up a position further right of the white nationalist Australian parties on immigration and no one is even talking about it.

bjowen 6y ago
Hang on, what? This seems like a non-sequitur, how does Oz’s (terrible) treatment of asylum seekers by irregular maritime arrival (not illegal immigrants) relate to the point you’re making? Australia is not indefinitely imprisoning arrivals from overseas, nor is NZ. NZ has repeatedly offered to settle asylum seekers imprison at Nauru. Which ‘lefties’ have adopted white nationalist policies?
- konjin 6y ago
  Everyone at ports and airports gets a forced 2 week quarantine on arrival in AU and NZ. The only other way to enter an island (check a map to see why this is relevant) is by sailing a boat, since illegal boat arrivals are already being treated as criminals and locked up keeping up quarantine is a lot easier. Even though every two weeks some part of AU or NZ goes into a forced lock down when someone makes it through the cracks. This would be impossible in America without a wide no-mans land on the Mexican and Canadian boarders where any trespassers are put in the sort of camps Australia runs. OP is wrong about it 'ending' if the US just wore masks. Victoria alone has shown that without a closed boarder it is impossible to keep the virus out regardless of what hygiene theater you do.

by konjin 6y ago

bjowen 6y ago

Hang on, what? This seems like a non-sequitur, how does Oz’s (terrible) treatment of asylum seekers by irregular maritime arrival (not illegal immigrants) relate to the point you’re making? Australia is not indefinitely imprisoning arrivals from overseas, nor is NZ. NZ has repeatedly offered to settle asylum seekers imprison at Nauru. Which ‘lefties’ have adopted white nationalist policies?

konjin 6y ago
Everyone at ports and airports gets a forced 2 week quarantine on arrival in AU and NZ. The only other way to enter an island (check a map to see why this is relevant) is by sailing a boat, since illegal boat arrivals are already being treated as criminals and locked up keeping up quarantine is a lot easier. Even though every two weeks some part of AU or NZ goes into a forced lock down when someone makes it through the cracks. This would be impossible in America without a wide no-mans land on the Mexican and Canadian boarders where any trespassers are put in the sort of camps Australia runs. OP is wrong about it 'ending' if the US just wore masks. Victoria alone has shown that without a closed boarder it is impossible to keep the virus out regardless of what hygiene theater you do.