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And underpaid, understaffed, and spread thin patrolling East Oakland.

dkl 15y ago
Underpaid? Really? I don't have a reference, but I saw an article a couple of years ago that with overtime it was common for Oakland officers to make more than $100k.
- thaumaturgy 15y ago
  Highway patrol, too: http://www.chp.ca.gov/recruiting/osalary.html http://www.chp.ca.gov/recruiting/osalary.html
  - ajays 15y ago
    Wow. Earning $83,969 per year with just a HS Diploma (and CHP academy training) ain't bad at all.
    - zackattack 15y ago
      Actually I think it sucks when you consider that you're much more likely to die on the job as a CHP officer than as a programmer.
      - thomasz 15y ago
        Granted, being a police officer is certainly a more risky profession than programming, but I'm not sure that the chance of getting killed on the job is higher for police officers than for truck or cab drivers.
      - khafra 15y ago
        Garbage collector death rate: 47/100,000 per year Roofer death rate: 35/100,000 per year Lumberjack death rate: 92/100,000 per year Police death rate: 13/100,000 per year None of these jobs requires a college degree. The average roofer salary is 36k/year, 42% of the salary of a job with a 63% lower death rate. http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/ http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/ http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfoi_rates_2009hb.pdf http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfoi_rates_2009hb.pdf http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-roofing http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-roofing
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        zackattack 15y ago
        You're right.. it's less awful than garbage collector, but its requirements are more stringent so the market leverages different demands.
- hack_edu 15y ago
  Police departments in other East Bay cities pay higher wages and are lower-risk. Police departments can be brain-drained too.
- rbanffy 15y ago
  Keep in mind they may get 100K+ in exchange of putting their lives in danger occasionally.
  - CamperBob 15y ago
    In the US, police work doesn't even make the top 10 most dangerous professions. You wouldn't know it from listening to them whine, though.
    - zackattack 15y ago
      Out of a total of how many professions? That's a misleading statistic.
      - CamperBob 15y ago
        Out of every profession tracked by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/110394/americas-10-most-dangerous-jobs http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/110394/americas...
      - khafra 15y ago
        How is that relevant? If it's out of a total of 11 professions, that's even worse than if it were out of every single job out there.
    - rbanffy 15y ago
      Is it more dangerous than what you do? Could police work be less dangerous because of adequate training, equipment and protocols? The danger is still there, mitigated.
      - CamperBob 15y ago
        (Puzzled shrug) Yes, and roofers wear hard hats. Am I missing your point somehow?
  - carpo 15y ago
- stretchwithme 15y ago
  Where they really cleanup is overtime. And on the last year on the job, they work ridiculous hours, perhaps sleeping at a desk a lot of the time. Pensions in California are based on the last year of pay. Yes, they do put their lives at risk and for that I am appreciative. But I'd appreciate it a lot more if they were a lot more responsive to the citizens who pay them.

dkl 15y ago

Underpaid? Really? I don't have a reference, but I saw an article a couple of years ago that with overtime it was common for Oakland officers to make more than $100k.

thaumaturgy 15y ago
Highway patrol, too: http://www.chp.ca.gov/recruiting/osalary.html http://www.chp.ca.gov/recruiting/osalary.html
- ajays 15y ago
  Wow. Earning $83,969 per year with just a HS Diploma (and CHP academy training) ain't bad at all.
  - zackattack 15y ago
    Actually I think it sucks when you consider that you're much more likely to die on the job as a CHP officer than as a programmer.
    - thomasz 15y ago
      Granted, being a police officer is certainly a more risky profession than programming, but I'm not sure that the chance of getting killed on the job is higher for police officers than for truck or cab drivers.
    - khafra 15y ago
      Garbage collector death rate: 47/100,000 per year Roofer death rate: 35/100,000 per year Lumberjack death rate: 92/100,000 per year Police death rate: 13/100,000 per year None of these jobs requires a college degree. The average roofer salary is 36k/year, 42% of the salary of a job with a 63% lower death rate. http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/ http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/ http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfoi_rates_2009hb.pdf http://www.bls.gov/iif/oshwc/cfoi/cfoi_rates_2009hb.pdf http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-roofing http://www.simplyhired.com/a/salary/search/q-roofing
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      - zackattack 15y ago
        You're right.. it's less awful than garbage collector, but its requirements are more stringent so the market leverages different demands.
hack_edu 15y ago
Police departments in other East Bay cities pay higher wages and are lower-risk. Police departments can be brain-drained too.
rbanffy 15y ago
Keep in mind they may get 100K+ in exchange of putting their lives in danger occasionally.
- CamperBob 15y ago
  In the US, police work doesn't even make the top 10 most dangerous professions. You wouldn't know it from listening to them whine, though.
  - zackattack 15y ago
    Out of a total of how many professions? That's a misleading statistic.
    - CamperBob 15y ago
      Out of every profession tracked by the US Bureau of Labor Statistics. http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/110394/americas-10-most-dangerous-jobs http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work/article/110394/americas...
    - khafra 15y ago
      How is that relevant? If it's out of a total of 11 professions, that's even worse than if it were out of every single job out there.
  - rbanffy 15y ago
    Is it more dangerous than what you do? Could police work be less dangerous because of adequate training, equipment and protocols? The danger is still there, mitigated.
    - CamperBob 15y ago
      (Puzzled shrug) Yes, and roofers wear hard hats. Am I missing your point somehow?
- carpo 15y ago
stretchwithme 15y ago
Where they really cleanup is overtime. And on the last year on the job, they work ridiculous hours, perhaps sleeping at a desk a lot of the time. Pensions in California are based on the last year of pay. Yes, they do put their lives at risk and for that I am appreciative. But I'd appreciate it a lot more if they were a lot more responsive to the citizens who pay them.