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> Rich communities should want to welcome more residents, particularly those less fortunate than them. Sadly, in the Bay Area, that doesn’t seem to be the case.

> Rich communities should want to welcome more residents, particularly those less fortunate than them. Sadly, in the Bay Area, that doesn’t seem to be the case. Is that the case anywhere in the world? Why single out the Bay Area.

throwaway1777 6y ago
100% agree, the Bay Area isn’t even that bad. If you want to see real exclusion try going to a gated community in Beverly Hills or Miami.
- Decade 6y ago
  One difference, as highlighted by the YIMBY Action lawsuit against the California Department of Housing and Community Development, is that both Beverly Hills and San Bernardino are included in the Southern California Association of Governments, and thus they are considered together while planning for housing needs. Whereas Stockton is excluded from the Association of Bay Area Governments. The housing shortage in the Bay Area is not accurately assessed, and not accurately planned for. https://www.sfweekly.com/news/yimbys-sue-for-even-more-housing-via-rhna/ https://www.sfweekly.com/news/yimbys-sue-for-even-more-housi...
jseliger 6y ago
Yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16704501 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16704501
- davidw 6y ago
  I'm particularly fond of this article showing different ways of accomplishing "more housing": https://www.sightline.org/2017/09/21/yes-you-can-build-your-way-to-affordable-housing/ https://www.sightline.org/2017/09/21/yes-you-can-build-your-...
ndiscussion 6y ago
Because the residents are Bad(tm) and need to be punished. These standards only seem to apply to America and Europe. Does anyone have a counterexample outside of America or Europe where the underclass is allowed to live side-by-side with the rich? I've never heard of one but perhaps I'm ignorant. Most countries seem dead-set on rejecting any and all immigrants that don't bring $500k+ along with them.
- ndiscussion 6y ago
  So no counterexamples before my post turns to dust?

throwaway1777 6y ago

100% agree, the Bay Area isn’t even that bad. If you want to see real exclusion try going to a gated community in Beverly Hills or Miami.

Decade 6y ago
One difference, as highlighted by the YIMBY Action lawsuit against the California Department of Housing and Community Development, is that both Beverly Hills and San Bernardino are included in the Southern California Association of Governments, and thus they are considered together while planning for housing needs. Whereas Stockton is excluded from the Association of Bay Area Governments. The housing shortage in the Bay Area is not accurately assessed, and not accurately planned for. https://www.sfweekly.com/news/yimbys-sue-for-even-more-housing-via-rhna/ https://www.sfweekly.com/news/yimbys-sue-for-even-more-housi...

jseliger 6y ago

Yes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16704501 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16704501

davidw 6y ago
I'm particularly fond of this article showing different ways of accomplishing "more housing": https://www.sightline.org/2017/09/21/yes-you-can-build-your-way-to-affordable-housing/ https://www.sightline.org/2017/09/21/yes-you-can-build-your-...

ndiscussion 6y ago

Because the residents are Bad(tm) and need to be punished. These standards only seem to apply to America and Europe. Does anyone have a counterexample outside of America or Europe where the underclass is allowed to live side-by-side with the rich? I've never heard of one but perhaps I'm ignorant. Most countries seem dead-set on rejecting any and all immigrants that don't bring $500k+ along with them.

ndiscussion 6y ago
So no counterexamples before my post turns to dust?