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Gyms and restaurants are opening despite orders. Many have already been given major fines, had utilities shutdown, etc. Friends our shutdown there restaurant

Gyms and restaurants are opening despite orders. Many have already been given major fines, had utilities shutdown, etc. Friends our shutdown there restaurant last week.

arcticbull 6y ago
That’s what happens when you break the law. It’s like talking about all your friends jailed for DUI, like ok, maybe don’t do that then?
- wernercd 6y ago
  Break the law? "Dictator" given mandates without scientific backing are "law" now? Because everywhere you look... with or without lockdowns, COVID is spreading... California, New Jersey, Florida, Texas... all different approaches. All spreading in "2nd waves"... Not everyone is okay with following "decree's from on high by a benevolent master" without end because "the war will never be over so give me more power"...
  - arcticbull 6y ago
    Not in New Zealand though huh. Where they did the lockdowns properly, and it stopped Covid completely. Compliance is the issue not the approach.
  - arcticbull 6y ago
    Just to be clear, the state and federal government have a long history of challenged (and ultimately upheld) sweeping authority to impose restrictions in support of public heath. Here's an analysis by the CATO institute, which is, dare I say, not exactly "left-leaning". [1] There were pandemics and lockdowns all the way back to the founding fathers, which I still find very strange to hearken back to, they made a lot of poor decisions too - but I digress. [1] https://www.cato.org/commentary/are-lockdown-orders-constitutional https://www.cato.org/commentary/are-lockdown-orders-constitu...
- sawjet 6y ago
  > That’s what happens when you break the law. It’s like talking about all your friends jailed for DUI, like ok, maybe don’t do that then? What law is being broken?
- ARandomerDude 6y ago
  So all laws are good? Is that what you would say to someone who broke Jim Crow?
  - deleted 6y ago
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Gyms and restaurants are opening despite orders. Many have already been given major fines, had utilities shutdown, etc. Friends our shutdown there restaurant last week.

arcticbull 6y ago

That’s what happens when you break the law. It’s like talking about all your friends jailed for DUI, like ok, maybe don’t do that then?

wernercd 6y ago
Break the law? "Dictator" given mandates without scientific backing are "law" now? Because everywhere you look... with or without lockdowns, COVID is spreading... California, New Jersey, Florida, Texas... all different approaches. All spreading in "2nd waves"... Not everyone is okay with following "decree's from on high by a benevolent master" without end because "the war will never be over so give me more power"...
- arcticbull 6y ago
  Not in New Zealand though huh. Where they did the lockdowns properly, and it stopped Covid completely. Compliance is the issue not the approach.
- arcticbull 6y ago
  Just to be clear, the state and federal government have a long history of challenged (and ultimately upheld) sweeping authority to impose restrictions in support of public heath. Here's an analysis by the CATO institute, which is, dare I say, not exactly "left-leaning". [1] There were pandemics and lockdowns all the way back to the founding fathers, which I still find very strange to hearken back to, they made a lot of poor decisions too - but I digress. [1] https://www.cato.org/commentary/are-lockdown-orders-constitutional https://www.cato.org/commentary/are-lockdown-orders-constitu...
sawjet 6y ago
> That’s what happens when you break the law. It’s like talking about all your friends jailed for DUI, like ok, maybe don’t do that then? What law is being broken?
ARandomerDude 6y ago
So all laws are good? Is that what you would say to someone who broke Jim Crow?
- deleted 6y ago
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