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and how many is that? > But once you build a track record of competent contributions how hard is this? especially for the population who is in need of actual

and how many is that? > But once you build a track record of competent contributions how hard is this? especially for the population who is in need of actual employment. I am a cs student and has worked professionally but even then making any meaningful contribution to any decent language is beyond what I can afford (time/energy/financial-wise). More often than not, there is a lack of documentation (yes, I know this can be something I can contribute), very strict requirements for any pull requests, etc.

WalterBright 6y ago
> how many is that? Dunno, I never kept track. But I also know that a big motivator for D Conference sponsors is recruiting, and a big reason people attend is to get recruited. It's a win all around. > how hard is this? It's as hard as you can handle. Of course, competently doing the harder things gets you more leet cred. > beyond what I can afford (time/energy/financial-wise). If you're out of work, you have the time, and it costs nothing to contribute. > very strict requirements for any pull requests That's right. We're only interested in quality professional work, as any business would. Sub-par work just causes the rest of us problems.
- mhh__ 6y ago
  WRT to the last point, just put what you can in a PR and we'll review it - always tell someone if you think they're wrong, but work just hard when helping them be right and the world ends up a better place.
mhh__ 6y ago
I recently started working for the D foundation - the pay per hour is pretty reasonable considering I'm 20, but I nominally only do a few hours a week so I wouldn't be able to live off of it. I basically got the job by bothering to write a nice email asking to do it as far as I can tell - I like to think I know what I'm doing (!) but realistically this is a sociopolitical thing not magic. We have a few more people also working for the foundation who are paid more than me, you could live off that. The D community is small but very efficient in places, there are a bunch of companies hiring D developers for quite a bit of money, just no where near as many as there are (say) C++ shops. For example, the company funding my position at the foundation manages about 6 Billion dollars raised to the power of D - we're lucky to have them. We do need some fresh blood, but we can change that now we have people working on it. Edit: Forgot my birthday was 2 days ago (too much programming rots the brain)

WalterBright 6y ago

> how many is that? Dunno, I never kept track. But I also know that a big motivator for D Conference sponsors is recruiting, and a big reason people attend is to get recruited. It's a win all around. > how hard is this? It's as hard as you can handle. Of course, competently doing the harder things gets you more leet cred. > beyond what I can afford (time/energy/financial-wise). If you're out of work, you have the time, and it costs nothing to contribute. > very strict requirements for any pull requests That's right. We're only interested in quality professional work, as any business would. Sub-par work just causes the rest of us problems.

mhh__ 6y ago
WRT to the last point, just put what you can in a PR and we'll review it - always tell someone if you think they're wrong, but work just hard when helping them be right and the world ends up a better place.

mhh__ 6y ago

I recently started working for the D foundation - the pay per hour is pretty reasonable considering I'm 20, but I nominally only do a few hours a week so I wouldn't be able to live off of it. I basically got the job by bothering to write a nice email asking to do it as far as I can tell - I like to think I know what I'm doing (!) but realistically this is a sociopolitical thing not magic. We have a few more people also working for the foundation who are paid more than me, you could live off that. The D community is small but very efficient in places, there are a bunch of companies hiring D developers for quite a bit of money, just no where near as many as there are (say) C++ shops. For example, the company funding my position at the foundation manages about 6 Billion dollars raised to the power of D - we're lucky to have them. We do need some fresh blood, but we can change that now we have people working on it. Edit: Forgot my birthday was 2 days ago (too much programming rots the brain)