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You can't reasonably expect a government to welcome a business into their country, while the business is working against the interests of said government. Apple

You can't reasonably expect a government to welcome a business into their country, while the business is working against the interests of said government. Apple and Google are businesses who operate in various countries with the objective of making money. I still don't see why a tech company in the US should be in charge of engineering social behavior around the world. In my opinion, this is a dangerous path.

stale2002 6y ago
> You can't reasonably expect a government to welcome a business into their country But the country already allows "unlocked" PCs to be sold in the country. It is already allowing people to purchase devices that could work against the country. > should be in charge of engineering social behavior Intel is already selling PCs though. Why is it so crazy to suggest that phone companies should act more like what intel is already doing, by selling unlocked electronics? > In my opinion, this is a dangerous path. So you think that any company that is selling unlocked devices, is going down a dangerous path? Really?
- passivate 6y ago
  >It is already allowing people to purchase devices that could work against the country. Because they made a mistake once, they should make it twice? Well, that isn't likely to convince them! >Why is it so crazy to suggest that phone companies should act more like what intel is already doing, by selling unlocked electronics? You seem to be really passionate about this, and somehow think that I oppose open platforms. I never said that, and I don't. >So you think that any company that is selling unlocked devices, is going down a dangerous path? Really? No, I don't think that. Please stop putting words in my mouth. This is simply not a good faith conversation. I'm out.. sorry.
  - stale2002 6y ago
    > Because they made a mistake once, they should make it twice? What I am saying is that you are suggesting an extraordinary measure. In the same way that banning all PCs is an extraordinary measure. Such a measure would have wide reaching consequences, and large costs. Most governments are not completely irrational. They respond to incentives, and if something is very difficult to do, then they are going to be less likely to do it. And making all phones illegal, sounds like something that would be more difficult to do, than banning a couple app stores. > No, I don't think that. Ok cool. So then if the phone manufactures made it so their phones were all unlocked, which is what I am recommending that they do, then you would not say that this is going down a dangerous path. Got it. You agree with my original position that they should sell unlocked devices.

stale2002 6y ago

> You can't reasonably expect a government to welcome a business into their country But the country already allows "unlocked" PCs to be sold in the country. It is already allowing people to purchase devices that could work against the country. > should be in charge of engineering social behavior Intel is already selling PCs though. Why is it so crazy to suggest that phone companies should act more like what intel is already doing, by selling unlocked electronics? > In my opinion, this is a dangerous path. So you think that any company that is selling unlocked devices, is going down a dangerous path? Really?

passivate 6y ago
>It is already allowing people to purchase devices that could work against the country. Because they made a mistake once, they should make it twice? Well, that isn't likely to convince them! >Why is it so crazy to suggest that phone companies should act more like what intel is already doing, by selling unlocked electronics? You seem to be really passionate about this, and somehow think that I oppose open platforms. I never said that, and I don't. >So you think that any company that is selling unlocked devices, is going down a dangerous path? Really? No, I don't think that. Please stop putting words in my mouth. This is simply not a good faith conversation. I'm out.. sorry.
- stale2002 6y ago
  > Because they made a mistake once, they should make it twice? What I am saying is that you are suggesting an extraordinary measure. In the same way that banning all PCs is an extraordinary measure. Such a measure would have wide reaching consequences, and large costs. Most governments are not completely irrational. They respond to incentives, and if something is very difficult to do, then they are going to be less likely to do it. And making all phones illegal, sounds like something that would be more difficult to do, than banning a couple app stores. > No, I don't think that. Ok cool. So then if the phone manufactures made it so their phones were all unlocked, which is what I am recommending that they do, then you would not say that this is going down a dangerous path. Got it. You agree with my original position that they should sell unlocked devices.