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There is more to the story of childhood diet than simple narratives of cheap nutrition, though that certainly plays a massive role. Consider, for instance, eati
by monadic3 6y ago
There is more to the story of childhood diet than simple narratives of cheap nutrition, though that certainly plays a massive role. Consider, for instance, eating disorders, including some which may be mistaken for playing into aforementioned narrative, such as binge eating (a common symptom among eating disorders in general and often co-morbid with eating comforting but "bad" food) and picky eating (such as ARFID, also correlated with eating comforting but "bad" food). In neither situation is the consumption of the "bad" food the cause or most even the most harmful symptom.
- slothtrop 6y agoNo one binge-eats a bag of apples. You can't really divorce the nature of the food from overconsumption.
- jjj123 6y agoSpeak for yourself. I have some issues with food addiction and have absolutely binged on celery, Greek yogurt, broccoli, etc. in an unsuccessful attempt to eat healthier without fixing the root issue. Of course I prefer to binge on pizza but I’ll overeat just about anything.
- r00fus 6y agoHow does one overeat celery? It literally takes more energy to eat than it gives you in calories...
- jjj123 6y agoOvereating means eating so much your life is negatively impacted in some way. Gaining weight is definitely an example of a negative impact but certainly not the only one. I would eat until I felt sick. Sometimes I’d have a food hangover the next day.
- slothtrop 6y agoThese foods are so fibrous it's difficult to have anything resembling a binge, even if the volume seems high. A large bag of chips contains an average 1200 calories. Anyone can eat that in a sitting. An apple averages 93 calories, it would take you 13 to yield 1200 calories. Broccoli florets have 25 calories; meaning you'd have to consume 48. I don't believe for a second you've ever eaten 48 broccoli florets in a row. Yes, emotional eating / stress eating is its own problem which isn't dictated by a given food, but is absolutely facilitated by food, to the extent that in absence of ultra-processed foods binge-eating is far less likely, and drastically reduced.
- jjj123 6y ago> these foods are so fibrous it’s difficult to have anything resembling a binge You’re talking about eating too many calories, I’m talking about overeating and binging. They are related, but not the same. It is absolutely binging to eat broccoli to the point where you feel sick and can’t sleep and contemplate making yourself vomit (speaking from experience here), even if calorie-wise it’s less than a donut.
- cudgy 6y agoTrue in some cases, but most people are not willing to eat to the point of suffering and will adjust to avoid this. I remember eating a 16” pizza once as a kid and lying in the car afterwards feeling sick, but I never did it again to that extent. Leaving ned a valuable lesson ... still love pizza though ... gluten-free pizza that is. Food has a different purpose in your state than enjoyment and taste. Did you have siblings that stole your food as a kid? Any ideas why the compulsion to fill your stomach to that point?
- slothtrop 6y agoBroccoli is not a "trigger food". That's usually simple carbs, sugar, fat. These facilitate binge-eating in every way. I don't think binge-eating is defined specifically as eating to the point of it being painful, it's overeating to the extent it's habitual and difficult to stop.
- est31 6y agoAgree with you on your general point, but i wouldn't phrase it as "no one": https://www.travelpulse.com/news/airlines/airline-passengers-eat-66-pounds-of-oranges-to-avoid-fee.html https://www.travelpulse.com/news/airlines/airline-passengers...
- monadic3 6y agoMy point is that "overconsumption" has a very different meaning inside the context of "underconsumption" to the point that binge eating is a substantial source of your calories and might not be considered "overconsumption" at all. If you don't eat the apple in the first place avoiding junk food doesn't do any good. Furthermore, there are probably hundreds of millions of people silently malnourishing themselves through fad diets that non-doctors prescribe and overexercising. Such a rigid view of nutrition as the parent poster implied (e.g., health problems in america are generally traceable back to high availability of food high in sugar and fat but low in fiber and a culture of non-exercise) obscures deeply complex ways that people consume food and how this is informed through the media and social norms. Anyway, I'm not gonna stop chugging milkshakes any time soon; I need the nutrition to gain weight.