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> Does that mean the fetishization of redheads is also bleeding into every-day life? Yes it does. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

dvt 6y ago
> Yes it does. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Because even though you might be able to make a case for "Asians" being fetishized (in the West), the argument of redheads being fetishized is bonkers. Unless you'd like to also make the argument for blondes[1] being fetishized, and heck, why not throw brunettes[1] in there too? [1] https://www.bustle.com/articles/174831-why-are-people-attracted-to-certain-hair-colors-what-science-knows-about-the-phenomenon https://www.bustle.com/articles/174831-why-are-people-attrac...
- modzu 6y ago
  that these sorts of intelligent, logically consistent arguments are so heavily downvoted hurts my heart. hey kids, read a book.
  - happytoexplain 6y ago
    How can something so subjective as the quality and intent of writing be judged on whether it's "logically consistent" (which, even in a more appropriate context, is a uselessly low bar)? And "intelligent"? What does such a broad complement even refer to in this case?
    - modzu 6y ago
      im not sure where to begin here.. but towards achieving an appreciation for logic, you might enjoy something that intersects with "mathematics", such as godel's "Über formal unentscheidbare Sätze der Principia Mathematica und verwandter Systeme". i also recommend reading bertrand russel's "on denoting". im quite curious to know if, once you've digested them, if you would change your comment. at the least, can you clarify if you truly meant "complement", or did you mean "compliment"?
      - throwaway2245 6y ago
        If you understand logic, at the level which you claim, then you should know that "logically consistent" has no correspondence with "correct". An "intelligent, logically consistent argument", as you say, can be plainly wrong or irrelevant. The underlying claim that "Asian" and "redhead" are exactly analogous seems dubious to me and I disagree with that, although I can agree that it is also unfortunate that the word "redhead" is banned by this filter.
- shadofx 6y ago
  You concur that there may be a case for "Asians" being fetishized. So Gizmodo has a totally valid case for mentioning Asians in the title, by your own admission? Plus the title is factually true. What was your complaint about in the first place, regarding "race-baiting" and "clickbait"?
- thereare5lights 6y ago
  If blondes and brunettes have their lives affected in a similar manner where they are prevented from searching about themselves, I would make the same argument. The point is that these terms that describe our identities should not be filtered out.
dang 6y ago
Please omit personal swipes. They're against the site guidelines and degrade discussion significantly. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

dvt 6y ago

> Yes it does. Why is this so hard for you to understand? Because even though you might be able to make a case for "Asians" being fetishized (in the West), the argument of redheads being fetishized is bonkers. Unless you'd like to also make the argument for blondes[1] being fetishized, and heck, why not throw brunettes[1] in there too? [1] https://www.bustle.com/articles/174831-why-are-people-attracted-to-certain-hair-colors-what-science-knows-about-the-phenomenon https://www.bustle.com/articles/174831-why-are-people-attrac...

modzu 6y ago
that these sorts of intelligent, logically consistent arguments are so heavily downvoted hurts my heart. hey kids, read a book.
- happytoexplain 6y ago
  How can something so subjective as the quality and intent of writing be judged on whether it's "logically consistent" (which, even in a more appropriate context, is a uselessly low bar)? And "intelligent"? What does such a broad complement even refer to in this case?
  - modzu 6y ago
    im not sure where to begin here.. but towards achieving an appreciation for logic, you might enjoy something that intersects with "mathematics", such as godel's "Über formal unentscheidbare Sätze der Principia Mathematica und verwandter Systeme". i also recommend reading bertrand russel's "on denoting". im quite curious to know if, once you've digested them, if you would change your comment. at the least, can you clarify if you truly meant "complement", or did you mean "compliment"?
    - throwaway2245 6y ago
      If you understand logic, at the level which you claim, then you should know that "logically consistent" has no correspondence with "correct". An "intelligent, logically consistent argument", as you say, can be plainly wrong or irrelevant. The underlying claim that "Asian" and "redhead" are exactly analogous seems dubious to me and I disagree with that, although I can agree that it is also unfortunate that the word "redhead" is banned by this filter.
shadofx 6y ago
You concur that there may be a case for "Asians" being fetishized. So Gizmodo has a totally valid case for mentioning Asians in the title, by your own admission? Plus the title is factually true. What was your complaint about in the first place, regarding "race-baiting" and "clickbait"?
thereare5lights 6y ago
If blondes and brunettes have their lives affected in a similar manner where they are prevented from searching about themselves, I would make the same argument. The point is that these terms that describe our identities should not be filtered out.

dang 6y ago

Please omit personal swipes. They're against the site guidelines and degrade discussion significantly. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html