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What do you mean by the term "banning religious apps"? Specifically, what does the term religious app mean to you?

by Layke1123 6y ago

boomboomsubban 6y ago
While I won't draw my exact lines, an annotated version of the Qur'an for your sect pretty clearly should be allowed.
- Layke1123 6y ago
  What if someone made a bible that claimed Jesus was not the son of god, but just a man. I assume you would be ok with that? What if someone makes a bible that says Jesus was engaged in a homosexual relationship with his disciples? I'm curious if you can draw the lines on those or if that's harder to say "this is clearly allowed".
  - boomboomsubban 6y ago
    >What if someone made a bible that claimed Jesus was not the son of god, but just a man. I assume you would be ok with that? Like the Qur'an? No problems bud. >What if someone makes a bible that says Jesus was engaged in a homosexual relationship with his disciples? If I actually thought their religion truly believed that, absolutely a-ok. If they were doing it to be assholes, I'd still have no problems with it but I understand why there would be some people very upset and wish they would voluntarily stop. That's also how I view depictions of Muhammad, if apps involving that were what Pakistan banned I'd see every party involved as objectionable. Here there's a clear victim.
    - Layke1123 6y ago
      Ahh so now what about banning child pedophilia in holy books? How do you feel about religions texts the promote that particular viewpoint?
      - boomboomsubban 6y ago
        Like cults? Claiming religious authority to abuse someone is a crime basically everywhere. If you're trying to refer to Muhammad, calling a few lines about a political marriage not contained in the Qur'an "promoting that viewpoint" is assholish behavior. If there's some other target or just a hypothetical, it would depend on how the religion viewed the section today.
        Layke1123 6y ago
        You are really about to start splitting hairs here I feel, but let's do this. If a religion today promoted that a 50 year old can marry a 9 year old, would you ban it or not? If a religion today claimed that the rapist of a woman who was single was forced to marry said woman, would you ban it or not?
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        >You are really about to start splitting hairs here I feel, but let's do this. Despite your attempts to provoke me, my answer to every question has been "it's fine" except for the clear cut case of abuse. Now you're continuing towards what I view as islamophobia even after my warning. I really don't understand what you're hoping for here. Child abuse, rape, and forced marriage are all things that should be illegal. Claiming a law is wrong shouldn't be illegal, but if the church was actively pushing their members to commit crimes they would likely be accessories. At no point would I ban a religion.
        Layke1123 6y ago
        It's not an attempt to provoke. I'm not sure why you think that. But you bring up a great point again. Define religion? I take it Satanism is a religion to you yes?
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        >I'm not sure why you think that. Because this started with your objection to me saying religious persecution is wrong, and within three posts you had called Jesus gay and Muhammad a pedophile just to see what kind of reaction I gave. If you disagree, explain what you're hoping to get out of this interaction.

What do you mean by the term "banning religious apps"? Specifically, what does the term religious app mean to you?

boomboomsubban 6y ago

While I won't draw my exact lines, an annotated version of the Qur'an for your sect pretty clearly should be allowed.

Layke1123 6y ago
What if someone made a bible that claimed Jesus was not the son of god, but just a man. I assume you would be ok with that? What if someone makes a bible that says Jesus was engaged in a homosexual relationship with his disciples? I'm curious if you can draw the lines on those or if that's harder to say "this is clearly allowed".
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  >What if someone made a bible that claimed Jesus was not the son of god, but just a man. I assume you would be ok with that? Like the Qur'an? No problems bud. >What if someone makes a bible that says Jesus was engaged in a homosexual relationship with his disciples? If I actually thought their religion truly believed that, absolutely a-ok. If they were doing it to be assholes, I'd still have no problems with it but I understand why there would be some people very upset and wish they would voluntarily stop. That's also how I view depictions of Muhammad, if apps involving that were what Pakistan banned I'd see every party involved as objectionable. Here there's a clear victim.
  - Layke1123 6y ago
    Ahh so now what about banning child pedophilia in holy books? How do you feel about religions texts the promote that particular viewpoint?
    - boomboomsubban 6y ago
      Like cults? Claiming religious authority to abuse someone is a crime basically everywhere. If you're trying to refer to Muhammad, calling a few lines about a political marriage not contained in the Qur'an "promoting that viewpoint" is assholish behavior. If there's some other target or just a hypothetical, it would depend on how the religion viewed the section today.
      - Layke1123 6y ago
        You are really about to start splitting hairs here I feel, but let's do this. If a religion today promoted that a 50 year old can marry a 9 year old, would you ban it or not? If a religion today claimed that the rapist of a woman who was single was forced to marry said woman, would you ban it or not?
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        >You are really about to start splitting hairs here I feel, but let's do this. Despite your attempts to provoke me, my answer to every question has been "it's fine" except for the clear cut case of abuse. Now you're continuing towards what I view as islamophobia even after my warning. I really don't understand what you're hoping for here. Child abuse, rape, and forced marriage are all things that should be illegal. Claiming a law is wrong shouldn't be illegal, but if the church was actively pushing their members to commit crimes they would likely be accessories. At no point would I ban a religion.
        Layke1123 6y ago
        It's not an attempt to provoke. I'm not sure why you think that. But you bring up a great point again. Define religion? I take it Satanism is a religion to you yes?
        boomboomsubban 6y ago
        >I'm not sure why you think that. Because this started with your objection to me saying religious persecution is wrong, and within three posts you had called Jesus gay and Muhammad a pedophile just to see what kind of reaction I gave. If you disagree, explain what you're hoping to get out of this interaction.