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This is nice and all, but why is everyone focused on "coding" trade schools? Can you really learn enough to make $200k a year in a "boot camp" style coding scho
by StillBored 6y ago
This is nice and all, but why is everyone focused on "coding" trade schools? Can you really learn enough to make $200k a year in a "boot camp" style coding school? If so, why not doctors and lawyers too?
So, i'm not a big supporter of these things because I think it trivializes the amount of effort it actually takes to be a useful team member. The people I work with are doing the logical equivalent of rebuilding the flight control surfaces of a helicopter while its flying in formation. These aren't the kinds of skills you learn in 6 weeks. Many of us have years of formal schooling combined with 10x that in personal learning hours before we even landed our first jobs. Add on a decade+ of professional work experience/etc. I'm not trying to sound arrogant, but I suspect that if someone tried to measure the knowledge required for some of these jobs people on this board hold, it would dwarf pretty much all but a few other professions. Its also not to say, that its not possible to be productive with a couple years of HS/AP level comp-sci classes and a year or two of toy programs (I landed my first programming job in HS, making barely more than minimum wage). Only that those jobs are the floor, and much harder to come by now that everyone and their brother is learning coding.
So frankly, some people have the interest/drive/aptitude into making software engineering their life, and some peoples strengths lie elsewhere. I think its doing everyone a disservice not to provide other options to prisoners, be that AC repair, or law degrees.
- pwinnski 6y agoAt my company, we've had two people transfer over from non-dev department to our dev department after going through a coding bootcamp, and both have worked out well. They come in pretty junior, of course, and they're not making $200k either, but I'd say that anyone with the right mindset can learn what they need to learn at a bootcamp as easily as they can in an undergrad program, and anyone without the right mindset is going to struggle with either. There is MUCH more pure memorization required for doctors and lawyers, and it's not even close. That said, I agree overall: software development shouldn't be the only thing taught in prison--or any other similar program.
- gowld 6y agoCoding school are popular because they are the easiest to automate with computer code. Anyway, everyone starts at entry-level before they get 10 years of experience.
- 123throwmeaway 6y agoIt’s a good experiment then. Either you’re wrong and these programs will be a success. Or, you’re right and these programs will fail. I think the latter will happen