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I think they tried to leverage the popularity of Mustangs to prop up the new car. Personally, I was very disappointed when I learned it was not, in fact, an ele

by bozzcl 6y ago

I think they tried to leverage the popularity of Mustangs to prop up the new car. Personally, I was very disappointed when I learned it was not, in fact, an electric muscle car.

myself248 6y ago
You say that, but have you driven one?
- banana_giraffe 6y ago
  I have. It was fun to drive, but it most certainly didn't feel like driving my Mustang. I'm no car expert, but it didn't feel as "connected" to the road as the Mustang is, the ride was effortless, and I'm sure very appealing to the average consumer. Not helping was being 10 inches or whatever higher. It felt like what it is, a very sporty SUV. Even then, I'd probably have bought one if it wasn't for the name, and the friggin screen. It bugs me calling that thing a Mustang. Though, I'm sure it'll sell well, and people like me will just grumble when we see one on the street. And no doubt that stupid screen will start showing up in more cars too.
  - zippergz 6y ago
    Tell me more about the screen. One of the things I've disliked about teslas is the massive touch screen in the middle, and I'm disappointed to see that this has it too, but in most other ways I find this pretty interesting.
    - banana_giraffe 6y ago
      The screen was, uh, ok, I guess. It did things, the UI was spartan, but not confusing. Compared to the Tesla Model 3 I've test driven, the experience there seemed the same to me. Maybe a little better since the control wheel meant some things can be done without touch, and having a secondary driver display in front of me meant less looking to the side. I can't comment on it for long term use, of course. The sales person was confused why I'd want to turn it off, and didn't know if it was possible, though that means, well, nothing. I didn't explore it much, since my gut feel by this point was "no buy", and I didn't feel compelled to talk myself out of that. I immediately see something like that and have a built in hatred of it. I picked my daily driver partially because I confirmed I could turn off (not just dim) the infotainment screen, and dim most everything else. When I drive, I want to drive, not have a screen blaring at me. Clearly, based off car design trends, I'm in the minority here.
      - zippergz 6y ago
        Yeah, I'm with you, but I agree that we are in the minority. Thanks for the added detail!
- bozzcl 6y ago
  No. What does that have to do with my comment? As far as justifying my "it's not really a Mustang" comment, you just have to... you know... look at it. It's a crossover SUV. SUVs don't drive like sports cars. Higher center of gravity, more suspension travel distance and heavier body which means more body roll. In that sense, the reviews I've read match my expectations because it couldn't have been another way. Instantaneous torque, which is fun, but bland steering and some body roll. So an electric SUV that vaguely resembles a Mustang.
  - myself248 6y ago
    > So an electric SUV that vaguely resembles a Mustang. I think I have to agree with you here, that's a more accurate description. I wonder if it'll be like the Toyota Corolla Matrix, as it was known for its first year, subsequently just the Toyota Matrix. (Different story there; it actually was a Corolla body so I could get all sorts of aftermarket suspension parts even for a just-released car...) Come to think of it, all sorts of brands have launched with a bridge year, haven't they? I won't be surprised if future years of this car are simply known as the Ford Mach-E, but for now they're trading on the cachet of the Mustang brand.

by bozzcl 6y ago

I think they tried to leverage the popularity of Mustangs to prop up the new car. Personally, I was very disappointed when I learned it was not, in fact, an electric muscle car.

myself248 6y ago

You say that, but have you driven one?

banana_giraffe 6y ago
I have. It was fun to drive, but it most certainly didn't feel like driving my Mustang. I'm no car expert, but it didn't feel as "connected" to the road as the Mustang is, the ride was effortless, and I'm sure very appealing to the average consumer. Not helping was being 10 inches or whatever higher. It felt like what it is, a very sporty SUV. Even then, I'd probably have bought one if it wasn't for the name, and the friggin screen. It bugs me calling that thing a Mustang. Though, I'm sure it'll sell well, and people like me will just grumble when we see one on the street. And no doubt that stupid screen will start showing up in more cars too.
- zippergz 6y ago
  Tell me more about the screen. One of the things I've disliked about teslas is the massive touch screen in the middle, and I'm disappointed to see that this has it too, but in most other ways I find this pretty interesting.
  - banana_giraffe 6y ago
    The screen was, uh, ok, I guess. It did things, the UI was spartan, but not confusing. Compared to the Tesla Model 3 I've test driven, the experience there seemed the same to me. Maybe a little better since the control wheel meant some things can be done without touch, and having a secondary driver display in front of me meant less looking to the side. I can't comment on it for long term use, of course. The sales person was confused why I'd want to turn it off, and didn't know if it was possible, though that means, well, nothing. I didn't explore it much, since my gut feel by this point was "no buy", and I didn't feel compelled to talk myself out of that. I immediately see something like that and have a built in hatred of it. I picked my daily driver partially because I confirmed I could turn off (not just dim) the infotainment screen, and dim most everything else. When I drive, I want to drive, not have a screen blaring at me. Clearly, based off car design trends, I'm in the minority here.
    - zippergz 6y ago
      Yeah, I'm with you, but I agree that we are in the minority. Thanks for the added detail!
bozzcl 6y ago
No. What does that have to do with my comment? As far as justifying my "it's not really a Mustang" comment, you just have to... you know... look at it. It's a crossover SUV. SUVs don't drive like sports cars. Higher center of gravity, more suspension travel distance and heavier body which means more body roll. In that sense, the reviews I've read match my expectations because it couldn't have been another way. Instantaneous torque, which is fun, but bland steering and some body roll. So an electric SUV that vaguely resembles a Mustang.
- myself248 6y ago
  > So an electric SUV that vaguely resembles a Mustang. I think I have to agree with you here, that's a more accurate description. I wonder if it'll be like the Toyota Corolla Matrix, as it was known for its first year, subsequently just the Toyota Matrix. (Different story there; it actually was a Corolla body so I could get all sorts of aftermarket suspension parts even for a just-released car...) Come to think of it, all sorts of brands have launched with a bridge year, haven't they? I won't be surprised if future years of this car are simply known as the Ford Mach-E, but for now they're trading on the cachet of the Mustang brand.