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>I'm sorry, do you pay more taxes than you owe? Why would anyone do that. There's a difference between tax avoidance and paying more than you owe, but IIRC you

>I'm sorry, do you pay more taxes than you owe? Why would anyone do that. There's a difference between tax avoidance and paying more than you owe, but IIRC you could donate to the US, though I don't know why anyone would do that. I did put forward real criticism, I said, straight out, that if they actually wanted to help, besides patting their backs and paying lip service, they would actually bring more brains out of poverty and there are many ways one can do that. They are certainly not as profitable as money laundering charities, but what does a proletariat know of the world of billionaires? Perhaps I am too stupid to see how amassing billions while underpaying workers, and making money off children in sweat shops makes the world a better place. There is indeed some bitterness, I wasn't born lucky, heart defects, mental illnesses, poverty, all the good stuff.

eloff 6y ago
> There's a difference between tax avoidance and paying more than you owe. No, that's the same. Using your brain to legally reduce your tax bill is quite reasonable and we all do it. If you have a problem with how much taxes presumably Amazon, not Jeff, pays, take it up with your lawmakers. > Perhaps I am too stupid to see how amassing billions while underpaying workers, and making money off children in sweat shops makes the world a better place. That's a pretty uncharitable characterization of Amazon. I can make an economics argument that to have a company of 1.6 trillion dollars in value means it probably brought more than that much in value to people around the world. But it doesn't really matter, he didn't do it to make the world a better place. Some of the things he's focusing on now, including blue origin, he is doing, I think chiefly, to make the world a better place given his past statements about why he started that company.
- PartiallyTyped 6y ago
  > No, that's the same. Using your brain to legally reduce your tax bill is quite reasonable and we all do it. If you have a problem with how much taxes presumably Amazon, not Jeff, pays, take it up with your lawmakers. Bending and modifying the law because you can exactly because you amassed money in order to amass more money isn't smart, it is literally the equivalent of the rich kid buying power in a pay to win game. > That's a pretty uncharitable characterization of Amazon. I can make an economics argument that to have a company of 1.6 trillion dollars in value means it probably brought more than that much in value to people around the world. But it doesn't really matter, he didn't do it to make the world a better place. I wasn't thinking just of amazon at the time, but also apple. I could make a political science argument as to why Apple/Amazon/big corp not enforcing standards on sweatshops only enables further exploitation of people.

eloff 6y ago

> There's a difference between tax avoidance and paying more than you owe. No, that's the same. Using your brain to legally reduce your tax bill is quite reasonable and we all do it. If you have a problem with how much taxes presumably Amazon, not Jeff, pays, take it up with your lawmakers. > Perhaps I am too stupid to see how amassing billions while underpaying workers, and making money off children in sweat shops makes the world a better place. That's a pretty uncharitable characterization of Amazon. I can make an economics argument that to have a company of 1.6 trillion dollars in value means it probably brought more than that much in value to people around the world. But it doesn't really matter, he didn't do it to make the world a better place. Some of the things he's focusing on now, including blue origin, he is doing, I think chiefly, to make the world a better place given his past statements about why he started that company.

PartiallyTyped 6y ago
> No, that's the same. Using your brain to legally reduce your tax bill is quite reasonable and we all do it. If you have a problem with how much taxes presumably Amazon, not Jeff, pays, take it up with your lawmakers. Bending and modifying the law because you can exactly because you amassed money in order to amass more money isn't smart, it is literally the equivalent of the rich kid buying power in a pay to win game. > That's a pretty uncharitable characterization of Amazon. I can make an economics argument that to have a company of 1.6 trillion dollars in value means it probably brought more than that much in value to people around the world. But it doesn't really matter, he didn't do it to make the world a better place. I wasn't thinking just of amazon at the time, but also apple. I could make a political science argument as to why Apple/Amazon/big corp not enforcing standards on sweatshops only enables further exploitation of people.