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What exactly is a fecal transplant?? This isnt the first time I heard of this technique and it seems to have wide reaching effectiveness.
by f430 6y ago
What exactly is a fecal transplant?? This isnt the first time I heard of this technique and it seems to have wide reaching effectiveness.
- TylerE 6y agoIt's what it sounds like. They take feces from one person, and then place it into the gut of the recipient, either via enema or a tube down the nose and through the stomach.
- f430 6y agowhoa thats what I suspected but hoped it was just a small transfer via probe...omg but I guess its quite effective in multiple medical papers I've read
- TylerE 6y agoAs transplants go, it's not even in the same state, never mind ballpark, as any other. No slicing you open, no lifetime of immunosuppressing anti-rejection drugs...
- giarc 6y agoThey actually halted a random control trial at one point since the treatment arm was so successful it was unethical to continue and not provide treatment to all.
- gus_massa 6y agoI can't read the paper now. How many persons were in the control group and how many in the intervention group?
- giarc 6y agoI don't think the paper is paywalled. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1205037 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1205037
- gus_massa 6y ago>>> They actually halted a random control trial [...] Thanks, but I misunderstood and though that you were commenting about the current treatment against cancer.
- tyingq 6y agoI wonder why there isn't an easy way to do it with a time-release coating/capsule. Edit: Apparently there is...they are called "FMT Capsules".
- war1025 6y agoI'm really not sure whether I'd rather have a poop enema or willingly swallow poop even if contained in a capsule. I would guess it's "possible" but also there is probably a lot of logistics involved in "take my poop and put it into your guts". Back fifteen or so years ago I saw a video somewhere talking about some people doing this to help with an immune condition. What I remember was basically, "We put my poop in a blender with some water to thin it out, and then they stick a tube up their butt and pour that in" Sounded like it wasn't just a one time deal, more something that needed to happen on a regular basis.
- giarc 6y agoI replied to the same comment, but to your point about willingly swallow poop pills, I've been there when many patients are tasked with taking this. I'd say patients have no issue with the pills since it typically means they've had debilitating diarrhea for 6 months or longer if they are at the FMT stage. When I was involved, the treatment was around 20-30 pills in one go. The hardest part for most was the amount of water they drank trying to swallow that many pills at once. One guy we treated had IBS and had been taking pills all his life. He downed the 30 pills in like 5 minutes and was done. He came back the next day and said he had never felt better in 20 years. For some, it's like a miracle drug.
- chordalkeyboard 6y ago> I'm really not sure whether I'd rather have a poop enema or willingly swallow poop even if contained in a capsule. Whats really disgusting is that your insides are already full of poop cause thats where its made.
- war1025 6y ago> already full of poop cause thats where its made. Your intestines are full of poop. Your stomach isn't full of poop. Your throat and mouth aren't full of poop. Vomiting is very unpleasant. Vomit isn't poop. The thought of poop in your mouth is very unpleasant. I really don't understand how a comment stating, "I really think it would be a toss-up for me which method I would prefer" is down-voted through the floor.
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- umvi 6y agoIt's exactly what it sounds like... when you put someone else's poop up your butt
- Engineering-MD 6y agoIt is generally an oral supplement rather than a reveal suppository.
- chordalkeyboard 6y agoIt's exactly what it sounds like... when you eat someone else's poop under the supervision of a team of physicians
- samstave 6y agoGo on....
- _Microft 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_feces#Fecal_transplants https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_feces#Fecal_transplants
- stickydink 6y agoExactly what it sounds like. Fecal matter from a healthy person, transplanted into the GI system of an unhealthy person. Benefits come from all the "good bacteria" living in there that are missing. YouTube has some deliciously informative videos if you'd like to watch a real surgery!
- samstave 6y ago" deliciously informative videos" I don't think that's the correct phrasing for this particular subject...
- PointyFluff 6y agoUh...there's no surgery involved.
- stickydink 6y agoI'm not incredibly familiar, but I watched some of those tasty videos I referenced. It certainly looked like there was somebody in there unconscious, with a Dr gowned up. Tubes and cameras and robot arms inserting various things. Depends where you draw the line at surgery VS procedure, does something have to be cut? Who knows! Either way, I recommend not DIY'ing this one.
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- 1337shadow 6y agoSee full procedure details in 20 seconds here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKX2afmgcEM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKX2afmgcEM
- tonyedgecombe 6y agoI don't want to watch that video.
- nathancahill 6y agoI knew exactly which video this was before clicking.