Sure :) I agree with most of this, it just feels disingenuous to pit Kotlin vs Java 8 and use that to bash Java/elevate Kotlin. IMO Kotlin stands on its own vs

Sure :) I agree with most of this, it just feels disingenuous to pit Kotlin vs Java 8 and use that to bash Java/elevate Kotlin. IMO Kotlin stands on its own vs Java - nullable types and flow-sensitive typing are real standout features that don't need to use a 7-year old version of Java to compare against.