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I generally support what you're saying, however there are two complicating factors with the Parler deplatforming that make me tolerate it. Not accept it, but to
by kmeisthax 6y ago
I generally support what you're saying, however there are two complicating factors with the Parler deplatforming that make me tolerate it. Not accept it, but tolerate it.
1. Parler was being used specifically to plan out acts of terrorism; and their moderation team took no action to stop it
2. Parler was not a free speech platform
On that first bit: while I generally want big platforms to be regulated like common carriers, they definitely should not be prohibited from making judgment calls as to what is and isn't illegal to publish. If you're a web host and someone sends a tip that someone's operating a fake bank login page on your service, you shouldn't have to wait for someone who got scammed or phished to get a court order before you can shut down obviously illegal activity.
For an example of why that's a problem: DMCA 512 has a case law loophole in which the moment any amount of human moderation happens to a website, the site loses it's copyright safe harbor. So if you have a recommendations algorithm or content ID bot, you have safe harbor. If you hire humans to curate content or search for infringing content, then you're liable for anything you miss to the tune of millions of dollars in damages. This creates a legal incentive to willful blindness.
Parler isn't blind, though. The platform wasn't intending to be a neutral, free-speech content host. They were moderating the platform - just not for violence. Parler was a platform created for Trump extremists and them alone, and they had a history of removing left-leaning or left-wing users from their platform. So under any sort of "common carrier for social media" law they still lose.
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- _-david-_ 6y agoParler was not used by the rioters. Nobody who was arrested planned anything on Parler, but they did use Facebook and Twitter.
- kmeisthax 6y ago"But Facebook did it too" isn't a great argument for Parler. If anything, you're arguing for more legal pressure on Facebook, not for getting Parler their AWS account back.
- _-david-_ 6y agoWe were told Parler aided in the riots, but they did not. If Parler actually did what they were accused of that would be "but Facebook did it too". Facebook and Twitter did it and Parler did not. >If anything, you're arguing for more legal pressure on Facebook, not for getting Parler their AWS account back. I am arguing for consistency. Parler was accused of something they did not do. They were found guilty by Amazon, Google and Apple. It then came out they were innocent, but the real perpetrators (Facebook and Twitter) and not being punished. If what Parler was accused of doing was so serious that removing them from app stores and AWS was the correct move then it seems like if people were consistent they would be calling for the same thing with the real perpetrators. I haven't seen any widespread support for removing the apps from the app stores. The whole thing feels political and not real outrage which is what I was trying to convey.