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+1. i like it but yes if i dont use it everyday and 2 weeks later go to brew install something, omg it has some gigantic update to do before i can brew install

by Gelob 6y ago

+1. i like it but yes if i dont use it everyday and 2 weeks later go to brew install something, omg it has some gigantic update to do before i can brew install anything.

dylan604 6y ago
so, you don't do a 'yum update' before installing software on your system (or 'apt-get update' or whatever)? Are you also the type of person that refuses to update system software because "it takes too long, and I'm too busy"?
- wpm 6y ago
  No, I don’t like forced 5 minute stops to my work. Yes, I’m the type of person who only updates on my schedule when notified, or when I need something. These little tools installed by home brew aren’t just little tools, they’re dependencies for whatever else they’re used in. The fact that I need package “X” doesn’t mean I want package Y, something entirely unrelated, updated without my consent. It’s MY fucking computer. Let ME decide what software gets installed on it and when.
- ratww 6y ago
  Not GP, but I do it quite often, but not every single time. Also yum/apt/etc updates are way faster and much more responsive than brew.
- eknkc 6y ago
  I generally don't do an apt update before installing a package that I needed at that moment. However I do full update / upgrades when it is convenient for me. That's the point.
- Schalter 6y ago
  I have the same issue and for me there is a simple difference: I probably use homebrew for a handfull of tools, in debian etc. my packagetmanager manages everything. Its not a huge issue but the thought of 'ah shit i need to run update' comes with 'that will be slow'
pwinnski 6y ago
That is frustrating, but fortunately `HOMEBREW_NO_AUTO_UPDATE=1` will take care of it. Then you have to remember to update every now and then yourself, though.
- m000 6y ago
  Would you happen to know how to disable upgrading unrelated packages? I often do `brew upgrade X`. Brew indeed does what is necessary to upgrade package X + deps. But then goes on and starts upgrading unrelated packages.
  - jacobsenscott 6y ago
    Brew does not start randomly upgrading unrelated packages. Packages have dependencies, and those dependencies have dependencies. Try `brew deps ---tree x` to see all the dependencies for you package. Look at `brew pin` to pin packages you don't want brew to upgrade. Many formula are versioned. For example if you install `postgresql` it will do major upgrades of postgres as they become available, but if you install `postgres@9.6` it will only install updates to 9.6.

by Gelob 6y ago

+1. i like it but yes if i dont use it everyday and 2 weeks later go to brew install something, omg it has some gigantic update to do before i can brew install anything.

dylan604 6y ago

so, you don't do a 'yum update' before installing software on your system (or 'apt-get update' or whatever)? Are you also the type of person that refuses to update system software because "it takes too long, and I'm too busy"?

wpm 6y ago
No, I don’t like forced 5 minute stops to my work. Yes, I’m the type of person who only updates on my schedule when notified, or when I need something. These little tools installed by home brew aren’t just little tools, they’re dependencies for whatever else they’re used in. The fact that I need package “X” doesn’t mean I want package Y, something entirely unrelated, updated without my consent. It’s MY fucking computer. Let ME decide what software gets installed on it and when.
ratww 6y ago
Not GP, but I do it quite often, but not every single time. Also yum/apt/etc updates are way faster and much more responsive than brew.
eknkc 6y ago
I generally don't do an apt update before installing a package that I needed at that moment. However I do full update / upgrades when it is convenient for me. That's the point.
Schalter 6y ago
I have the same issue and for me there is a simple difference: I probably use homebrew for a handfull of tools, in debian etc. my packagetmanager manages everything. Its not a huge issue but the thought of 'ah shit i need to run update' comes with 'that will be slow'

pwinnski 6y ago

That is frustrating, but fortunately `HOMEBREW_NO_AUTO_UPDATE=1` will take care of it. Then you have to remember to update every now and then yourself, though.

m000 6y ago
Would you happen to know how to disable upgrading unrelated packages? I often do `brew upgrade X`. Brew indeed does what is necessary to upgrade package X + deps. But then goes on and starts upgrading unrelated packages.
- jacobsenscott 6y ago
  Brew does not start randomly upgrading unrelated packages. Packages have dependencies, and those dependencies have dependencies. Try `brew deps ---tree x` to see all the dependencies for you package. Look at `brew pin` to pin packages you don't want brew to upgrade. Many formula are versioned. For example if you install `postgresql` it will do major upgrades of postgres as they become available, but if you install `postgres@9.6` it will only install updates to 9.6.