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Not mentioned is the password situation. That is the bigger lock-in than bookmarks. I don't know what is the tech stack underneath or even what chromium does.

by dzdt 6y ago

Not mentioned is the password situation. That is the bigger lock-in than bookmarks. I don't know what is the tech stack underneath or even what chromium does. But as a normal-ish chrome user I know behind the scenes google is managing my passwords and it would be a nightmare to switch. Too many sites I wouldn't know how to access without their password management. That is true lock-in.

kungito 6y ago
This is what I disliked about using password managers with autogenerated complex passwords. It feel like too much lock in. I'm glad I switched to Firefox Lockwise before getting too locked in with Google's password management
- fullstop 6y ago
  I switched from Enpass to Bitwarden and it was quite simple. Those are out-of-browser, though, and more in my control.
lorenzhs 6y ago
You can export your saved passwords from chrome on chrome://settings/passwords, click the three dot icon to the right of "Saved Passwords" then "Export Passwords". You'll get a CSV file with columns name,url,username,password. This file can be imported into Firefox with https://github.com/louisabraham/ffpass/ https://github.com/louisabraham/ffpass/ (Firefox doesn't support importing the passwords from a chrome profile on Linux). It shouldn't be too hard to import it into your password manager of choice, either.
Terretta 6y ago
Agree, that lock-in is rough. That said, it’s just now possible to co-exist or even shift gradually among all three of Microsoft, Google, and now Apple, managing web creds without a third party tool. Although it just got pulled, the just-prior iCloud for Windows supported Apple Keychain password sync, allowing a different GAFAM to manage your creds. There is a Chrome extension as well. https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/2/22263118/apple-icloud-windows-password-sync-version-removed https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/2/22263118/apple-icloud-wind... After it’s back, then a reasonably frictionless way to migrate from one of these to another would be to run them side by side for a quarter, using the old to supply the cred while accepting the prompt to remember it on the new. As long as you can still access the old cred store some way, you’ll have most useful creds in order, and only have to look up an old one when accessing something you never use.

by dzdt 6y ago

kungito 6y ago

This is what I disliked about using password managers with autogenerated complex passwords. It feel like too much lock in. I'm glad I switched to Firefox Lockwise before getting too locked in with Google's password management

fullstop 6y ago
I switched from Enpass to Bitwarden and it was quite simple. Those are out-of-browser, though, and more in my control.

lorenzhs 6y ago

You can export your saved passwords from chrome on chrome://settings/passwords, click the three dot icon to the right of "Saved Passwords" then "Export Passwords". You'll get a CSV file with columns name,url,username,password. This file can be imported into Firefox with https://github.com/louisabraham/ffpass/ https://github.com/louisabraham/ffpass/ (Firefox doesn't support importing the passwords from a chrome profile on Linux). It shouldn't be too hard to import it into your password manager of choice, either.

Terretta 6y ago

Agree, that lock-in is rough. That said, it’s just now possible to co-exist or even shift gradually among all three of Microsoft, Google, and now Apple, managing web creds without a third party tool. Although it just got pulled, the just-prior iCloud for Windows supported Apple Keychain password sync, allowing a different GAFAM to manage your creds. There is a Chrome extension as well. https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/2/22263118/apple-icloud-windows-password-sync-version-removed https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/2/22263118/apple-icloud-wind... After it’s back, then a reasonably frictionless way to migrate from one of these to another would be to run them side by side for a quarter, using the old to supply the cred while accepting the prompt to remember it on the new. As long as you can still access the old cred store some way, you’ll have most useful creds in order, and only have to look up an old one when accessing something you never use.