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People don't get it, do they. I have ZERO interest in an operating system. No, it's not that I have zero interest in an online operating system, I have no inter
by maxklein 18y ago
People don't get it, do they. I have ZERO interest in an operating system. No, it's not that I have zero interest in an online operating system, I have no interest in any operating system at all! What I want are quick and convenient applications, and the OS itself is totally irrelevant. So anyone who tries to apply a paradigm that was forced on us to something that we choose to use will ultimately fail.
What is needed is not an OS, it's an organiser. A place I store files, write letters, etc. Not some multiple window thingy, but some simply thing that gives me quick access to my applications.
Everyone trying to recreate Mac OS or Windows, but webbased is doomed to failure. Mac OS and Windows are used because people don't have a choice as to what desktop paradigm they can use. If one decides to switch, there are no applications, so you are forced into using a particular way.
But it has always been a flawed design, so don't copy this stuff.
- axod 18y agoFor me, creating a web OS is the wrong thing to do because the web already is an OS. It just needs more apps porting to it, and more interoperability between them. If you really want to create a new platform, I think it lives or dies depending on the apps you can get on it that can't be found elsewhere. I don't know if youos had any such killer apps...
- rokhayakebe 18y agoThat is correct.The web is an OS, and we only need to structure it a bit more or find a way to unify applications as Google does. Google is the web OS.
- pavelludiq 18y agoIt would be cool if i could hack the Google kernel, too bad its closed source :D
- volida 18y agoit's called WWW and it's not an OS
- unalone 18y agoThe web is not an OS. The web is a layer that operates through an OS. The distinction is important to make, because it demonstrates both the web's greatest advantage (the fact that it can reach across many computers at once) and its greatest weakness (it will always be slower than the desktop equivalents).
- axod 18y ago... Just like an application written for an O/S will always be slower than a custom written application which runs straight on the hardware with no O/S. It depends on your definition of O/S, and what you think it should do.
- rokhayakebe 18y agoWhat can you do on a Windows PC that you cannot if you have access to a browser on a Linux based computer?
- ashu 18y agoAs of today, play high performance games.
- axod 18y agoThere's a good argument for buying a games console.
- rokhayakebe 18y agoYou can do it on the web. You just cannot do it better.
- sown 18y agoI have to disagree. The Web doesn't handle interrupts or do memory allocation, schedule process and so forth. To call it that means you have to shed all meaning of the word operating system.
- mbuchanan 18y agoI agree... take a look at this... especially the videos(http://www.nestedguis.com http://www.nestedguis.com)
- axod 18y agohttp://www.storylinez.com/ http://www.storylinez.com/ is ridiculously unusable. (Linked from nestedguis)
- mbuchanan 18y agoIt's uses hover and zoom to navigate. not clicking. Did you watch one of the videos?
- axod 18y agoyes. Sorry, but it's also slower than evolution. Using hover instead of click doesn't save me time, it wastes more of it.
- mbuchanan 18y agoI would agree in some cases. I only said you don't use click to navigate because I didn't understand what your issue was. You can click out anywhere... On the title, the nav bar, or the web links. That will open in a new tab. Would that address the speed/clicking usability.? btw, sorry to hijack this thread.
- procrastitron 18y agoIt's also incredibly slow, though. I think that is what axod was referring to. The UI gets in the way of what actions you want to perform.
- mbuchanan 18y agoThanks. I am tweaking the experience as to not have the UI in the way. I see some of that as well. Where is the slowness you have? The pics loading, or the hover reacting? I don't have any.. except when previewing the hovered sites and waiting for them to load. the feedback is really appreciated.
- bsaunder 18y agoDo you really care about access to your applications (e.g. MS Word) or the functionality they provide (e.g. editing a document)? I think it's more likely just the functionality + the information. I think more likely Mac OS and Windows are doomed to failure. All I want is my information + function + communication (an emergent property of this would seem to be collaboration).
- unalone 18y agoIt depends on the application. Notepad I held no feelings toward. But I will fight to the death to protect my use of TextEdit. And you seem to forget, unless I'm misreading you: a part of using an application is the experience it provides. What are you saying will beat Mac OS and Windows? Google Docs? Buzzword? Hardly.
- bsaunder 18y agoGood point. I think user experience is important as well. But as demonstrated by many of arcane JavaScript emulators out there (vi, terminals, etc), I'm sure you could devise just about any user experience you would like in a simple web page. I'm not sure the Windows and Mac OS killer exists yet, but I think they will become increasingly irrelevant (as well as the non-browser apps installed on them).
- unalone 18y agoThat's always possible, but I'd bet against that. Perhaps in the long, long run, but I think that 10 years from now the desktop will still house the killer apps. Not the Internet.