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Because it's marketed as a 'big expansion pack' and not a 'dlc' they can price it at 20€ instead of 10€. Smart.

tomalpha 6y ago
This comes across as (perhaps unintentionally?) overly cynical to me. I purchased Factorio some years ago now, and have always had the feeling that I underpaid for it over that time despite playing a lot less than some friends I know. (I think I have a mere couple of hundred hours playtime which for any other game would be crazy high!) The devs have continuously worked on it in all that time. It’s not as if they had a bunch of expensive DLC lined up from day one as some AAA titles seem to these days.
nindalf 6y ago
I paid $30 for 90 hours of entertainment. That's how long it took to finish one game with my friends. You'll have a hard time convincing anyone that $0.33/hour isn't amazing value for entertainment. Whatever they price their expansion at, it'll be worth the money.
- sorahn 6y ago
  The number of hours I have in this game is measured in thousands. And the first digit is not a 1. $30 was a steal.
  - vntx 6y ago
    So was $15. I tried out and bought the game before its v1.0 release and even then the game was exceptionally stable and polished.
  - Sohcahtoa82 6y ago
    How? Do you just leave the game running 24/7 even when you're not actively playing? What do you even do? I only have 50 hours in Factorio. After I launched my rocket, I didn't know what to do next and just kinda stopped playing.
    - sorahn 6y ago
      After I got all the achievements I started playing some mod packs. About a year ago I found a nice discord group that does a new map roughly every month. It’s full of mods and different things. Yes it’s still factorio but we have a pretty small group of dedicated players who enjoy hanging out online with each other and factorio is how we choose to do it. The overhaul mod packs can pretty drastically change the game experience. It scratches the programming itch while being a break from actual programming. I’m sure the pandemic added a multiplier to those hours that I wouldn’t have seen otherwise. But I’m quite enjoying it.
    - mbrodersen 6y ago
      The game only really begins once you launch your first rocket. There is so much gameplay hidden in trying to improve the productivity of the initial factory. Playing with tough aliens makes it even more challenging/satisfying.
- Bakary 6y ago
  The true price of most entertainment tends to be its opportunity cost (which can still be low)
brmgb 6y ago
I think what they are doing is more than fair. It's basically them saying we consider that the next version we will ship corresponds to the work we promised (which is more than true). Now, they want to extend this base game and are announcing that they will come back in a while with an extension. There is no subscription shenanigan, no weird trickery with you surrendering your data. They sold us something and delivered and will now work to offer another thing at a price of their choosing. Something that people will be able to buy it if they do desire and knowing what they are buying. That seems refreshingly straightforward and honest to me.
nullc 6y ago
The game is remarkably affordable in terms of hours of enjoyment vs price. I feel like they could make an 'expansion pack' that cost twice as much as the game and it still would be a reasonable value.

This comes across as (perhaps unintentionally?) overly cynical to me. I purchased Factorio some years ago now, and have always had the feeling that I underpaid for it over that time despite playing a lot less than some friends I know. (I think I have a mere couple of hundred hours playtime which for any other game would be crazy high!) The devs have continuously worked on it in all that time. It’s not as if they had a bunch of expensive DLC lined up from day one as some AAA titles seem to these days.

nindalf 6y ago

I paid $30 for 90 hours of entertainment. That's how long it took to finish one game with my friends. You'll have a hard time convincing anyone that $0.33/hour isn't amazing value for entertainment. Whatever they price their expansion at, it'll be worth the money.

sorahn 6y ago
The number of hours I have in this game is measured in thousands. And the first digit is not a 1. $30 was a steal.
- vntx 6y ago
  So was $15. I tried out and bought the game before its v1.0 release and even then the game was exceptionally stable and polished.
- Sohcahtoa82 6y ago
  How? Do you just leave the game running 24/7 even when you're not actively playing? What do you even do? I only have 50 hours in Factorio. After I launched my rocket, I didn't know what to do next and just kinda stopped playing.
  - sorahn 6y ago
    After I got all the achievements I started playing some mod packs. About a year ago I found a nice discord group that does a new map roughly every month. It’s full of mods and different things. Yes it’s still factorio but we have a pretty small group of dedicated players who enjoy hanging out online with each other and factorio is how we choose to do it. The overhaul mod packs can pretty drastically change the game experience. It scratches the programming itch while being a break from actual programming. I’m sure the pandemic added a multiplier to those hours that I wouldn’t have seen otherwise. But I’m quite enjoying it.
  - mbrodersen 6y ago
    The game only really begins once you launch your first rocket. There is so much gameplay hidden in trying to improve the productivity of the initial factory. Playing with tough aliens makes it even more challenging/satisfying.
Bakary 6y ago
The true price of most entertainment tends to be its opportunity cost (which can still be low)

brmgb 6y ago

I think what they are doing is more than fair. It's basically them saying we consider that the next version we will ship corresponds to the work we promised (which is more than true). Now, they want to extend this base game and are announcing that they will come back in a while with an extension. There is no subscription shenanigan, no weird trickery with you surrendering your data. They sold us something and delivered and will now work to offer another thing at a price of their choosing. Something that people will be able to buy it if they do desire and knowing what they are buying. That seems refreshingly straightforward and honest to me.

nullc 6y ago

The game is remarkably affordable in terms of hours of enjoyment vs price. I feel like they could make an 'expansion pack' that cost twice as much as the game and it still would be a reasonable value.