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Ok, funny story about ruffle: Years ago in 2012 some co-workers stumbled on the greatest website ever: http://www.novalight.net/NOVALIGHT.html http://www.novali

Ok, funny story about ruffle: Years ago in 2012 some co-workers stumbled on the greatest website ever: http://www.novalight.net/NOVALIGHT.html http://www.novalight.net/NOVALIGHT.html (takes a while to load now) To prove that HTML5/CSS3 was finally ready, I started a side project to recreate it in JS: https://github.com/jtwaleson/NovaLight-Challenge https://github.com/jtwaleson/NovaLight-Challenge . I never got far and I don't know if that means I never finish side projects or if Flash is officially superior to HTML5. Anyway, the owner of the original site found it and emailed me his appreciation and I think we both had a good laugh about the situation. Two weeks ago he emailed me again to ask if I could maybe finish the project because flash is now dead, and the site is part of his legacy etc. Instead I slapped ruffle.js on it and everything is back up! It's quite slow to load, but apart from that everything looks great! Ruffle is an amazing project :)

kthxb 6y ago
Awesome page, and it even works flawless on mobile.
- mstade 6y ago
  Took a while to load, but absolutely worth the wait!
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bigdict 6y ago
I couldn't stop laughing at this page, so dramatic.
smcl 6y ago
I googled Peter K Joneleit after your description of him in the README and I was curious if you were just having a bit of fun or if he was involved in defining these web standards. Hooooo boy I was not prepared for his Twitter, it is wild
- so_this_is_me 6y ago
  Wow you're not wrong about his Twitter, that was an adventure. It's so over the top I actually can't tell if it's meant to be satire.
  - jcuenod 6y ago
    Probably just a hacked account
    - tyingq 6y ago
      I don't think so. The "SOL" link on his page leads to even worse stuff.
- jtwaleson 6y ago
  I was just having fun when I wrote it. Just saw his twitter feed... wow...
  - jtwaleson 6y ago
    To be honest I did see some conspiracy stuff on his website, but I decided to ignore it and just focus on the beautiful Flash animations. Not sure how I feel about it.
    - smcl 6y ago
      I think it’s ok to separate the art from the artist, so to speak. The original site is indeed interesting and a nice example of Flash web design from the era, the Twitter acct doesn’t change this
      - fortran77 6y ago
        I'm sorry. I looked at this website, and he explicitly blames me and my people for controlling and destroying the country (and the World Trade Center) and wants me destroyed. I can't look away from that. It's sad that that's OK on Y Combinator's Hacker News, but at least I know what I'm dealing with here.
zelphirkalt 6y ago
So wait, you tried to rebuild a flash website in javascript for the purpose of drawing conclusions about HTML5? How does that work? I mean, Flash and HTML5 are made for different purposes and use cases and HTML5 is not JavaScript.
- jtwaleson 6y ago
  Obviously the replacement needed a combination of HTML5/CSS3/JS.
  - zelphirkalt 6y ago
    Only partly true, but I will ask again: What does reimplementing a Flash site in JS have to do with "HTML5 being ready"? How does HTML5 help you with rebuilding the same thing in _JS_? And why does that mean HTML5 is ready? Ready for what? It still doesn't connect. You can use JS to manipulate an SVG and animate it. You could theoretically just move absolutely positioned colored divs around ... Or you could draw things on a canvas. Does that mean HTML5 "is ready" or "not ready"? It has got nothing to do with it. But yaaay! Lets go! Downvote a comment, which points out a flaw in logic!
    - bendiksolheim 6y ago
      You are not being downvoted because you point out logical flaws, you are being downvoted because you don’t contribute to the topic. Are you not aware of the discussion about HTML5 versus Flash, or do you just disagree with using HTML5 as an umbrella term here? Even the Wikipedia article [0] about HTML5 has a section on Flash, discussing features such as sound, video, graphics and interactive elements. With "HTML5 being ready" I believe OP is referring to it being a viable alternative to Flash. There is a famous quote where Steve Jobs said that Flash is no longer needed, because there are viable alternatives to the features it provided – HTML5 among others. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5#"Thoughts_on_Flash" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5#"Thoughts_on_Flash"
      - zelphirkalt 6y ago
newswasboring 6y ago
This work should be put in the wikipedia list of outsider art[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_outsider_artists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_outsider_artists
arghwhat 6y ago
Oh god it's every PowerPoint secreting manager's dream and the worst nightmare of everybody else.

kthxb 6y ago

Awesome page, and it even works flawless on mobile.

mstade 6y ago
Took a while to load, but absolutely worth the wait!

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bigdict 6y ago

I couldn't stop laughing at this page, so dramatic.

smcl 6y ago

I googled Peter K Joneleit after your description of him in the README and I was curious if you were just having a bit of fun or if he was involved in defining these web standards. Hooooo boy I was not prepared for his Twitter, it is wild

so_this_is_me 6y ago
Wow you're not wrong about his Twitter, that was an adventure. It's so over the top I actually can't tell if it's meant to be satire.
- jcuenod 6y ago
  Probably just a hacked account
  - tyingq 6y ago
    I don't think so. The "SOL" link on his page leads to even worse stuff.
jtwaleson 6y ago
I was just having fun when I wrote it. Just saw his twitter feed... wow...
- jtwaleson 6y ago
  To be honest I did see some conspiracy stuff on his website, but I decided to ignore it and just focus on the beautiful Flash animations. Not sure how I feel about it.
  - smcl 6y ago
    I think it’s ok to separate the art from the artist, so to speak. The original site is indeed interesting and a nice example of Flash web design from the era, the Twitter acct doesn’t change this
    - fortran77 6y ago
      I'm sorry. I looked at this website, and he explicitly blames me and my people for controlling and destroying the country (and the World Trade Center) and wants me destroyed. I can't look away from that. It's sad that that's OK on Y Combinator's Hacker News, but at least I know what I'm dealing with here.

zelphirkalt 6y ago

So wait, you tried to rebuild a flash website in javascript for the purpose of drawing conclusions about HTML5? How does that work? I mean, Flash and HTML5 are made for different purposes and use cases and HTML5 is not JavaScript.

jtwaleson 6y ago
Obviously the replacement needed a combination of HTML5/CSS3/JS.
- zelphirkalt 6y ago
  Only partly true, but I will ask again: What does reimplementing a Flash site in JS have to do with "HTML5 being ready"? How does HTML5 help you with rebuilding the same thing in _JS_? And why does that mean HTML5 is ready? Ready for what? It still doesn't connect. You can use JS to manipulate an SVG and animate it. You could theoretically just move absolutely positioned colored divs around ... Or you could draw things on a canvas. Does that mean HTML5 "is ready" or "not ready"? It has got nothing to do with it. But yaaay! Lets go! Downvote a comment, which points out a flaw in logic!
  - bendiksolheim 6y ago
    You are not being downvoted because you point out logical flaws, you are being downvoted because you don’t contribute to the topic. Are you not aware of the discussion about HTML5 versus Flash, or do you just disagree with using HTML5 as an umbrella term here? Even the Wikipedia article [0] about HTML5 has a section on Flash, discussing features such as sound, video, graphics and interactive elements. With "HTML5 being ready" I believe OP is referring to it being a viable alternative to Flash. There is a famous quote where Steve Jobs said that Flash is no longer needed, because there are viable alternatives to the features it provided – HTML5 among others. [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5#"Thoughts_on_Flash" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML5#"Thoughts_on_Flash"
    - zelphirkalt 6y ago

newswasboring 6y ago

This work should be put in the wikipedia list of outsider art[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_outsider_artists https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_outsider_artists

arghwhat 6y ago

Oh god it's every PowerPoint secreting manager's dream and the worst nightmare of everybody else.