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Exactly. Technology has lifted so many out of slavery and poverty... Even with the problems it introduces we have a utopian society compared to so many through
by gogopuppygogo 6y ago
Exactly. Technology has lifted so many out of slavery and poverty...
Even with the problems it introduces we have a utopian society compared to so many throughout recorded history.
- jay_kyburz 6y agoI don't think so, I think it's civilization. A lot of people are still slaves in another sense, and tech will not prevent extremists from plunging the world into a new dark age of slavery and poverty. Tech "empowers" people, but its what we choose to do with that power that makes our lives better (or worse)
- WalterBright 6y agoYou cannot have civilization without technology. The reason people invent technology is because it makes our lives better.
- jay_kyburz 6y agoI posed this above Walter, but just wanted to post again in case you didn't see it. I didn't actually read the link, I'm only responding to the original title which was "There is nothing inherently utopian about technological progress", and while I agree that technical progress is a vital part of achieving utopia, I don't agree that new technology will lead us to utopia without other forces "steering the ship" towards that utopia
- WalterBright 6y agoThere is something inherently utopian about technological progress, simply because the people doing the progressing are doing it to serve a human need. After all, people invented knives not to display them on the mantel, but because it would make their lives better.
- jay_kyburz 6y agoHaha, we'll I guess we can start debating the definition of Utopia, but if they invented the knife to stab their neighbor then that ain't my definition.
- A12-B 6y agoAlthough I disagree with OP, technology put people into slavery. It's not some natural state of humanity
- WalterBright 6y agoStone age tribes enslaved people.
- A12-B 6y agoHave a source for that?
- WalterBright 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery
- A12-B 6y agoUh oh, this contradicts your claim. No evidence of stone age slavery and says to my point that it was only after the agricultural revolution with a surplus of resources, which came due to technology.
- jhgb 6y ago> No evidence of stone age slavery and says to my point that it was only after the agricultural revolution Uh...the agricultural revolution did happen in the Stone Age.
- WalterBright 6y ago> No evidence of stone age slavery Read it again. BTW, stone age cultures had agriculture. Stone age means no metals, not no agriculture.