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What's the source on this? I see people keep saying that but from what I've seen, the #1 use of VR is as a gaming console, with a focus on games that embrace th

What's the source on this? I see people keep saying that but from what I've seen, the #1 use of VR is as a gaming console, with a focus on games that embrace the fitness aspect of VR. The Quest 2 has an insane mainstream potential, too, and most people won't bother rooting it. Speaking of, I'm going back to beat saber. You might have been misled by its name if you think that's a porn app. :) Email's in my profile if anyone is up for some multi. -- PS. It's pretty obvious to see the people in the comments here who haven't used VR headsets. Eyestrain and headaches are mostly a non issue with recent models, but what they still are is clammy. They get warm. Super uncomfortable for work purposes. Apple's design could solve that I suppose. As a non-apple-user, I'm excited to see if they can produce something as lightweight as the Quest 2 that is much higher end. I would buy that in a heartbeat, even at a 3k price tag. (Yes, mostly just for beat saber...)

chrischen 6y ago
> What's the source on this? Based on the GP's username it's probably from a self-survey.
- draw_down 6y ago
  Thanks for posting
Sebguer 6y ago
In the context of the rest of this comment, and the one you're referring to, I wonder how many people assume 'Beat Saber' is a euphemism. (https://beatsaber.com/ https://beatsaber.com/)
- scrollaway 6y ago
  Yep! And I can only sing praises about this game. It's some of the most fun I've ever had playing a video game. IMO it's the killer app of VR.
  - rblatz 6y ago
    Oh come on man join he Echo VR crew, your walls and all those 12 year old kids won’t punch themselves.
  - Cthulhu_ 6y ago
    I've never played Beat Saber but one of the first VR games I played was Space Pirate Trainer, basically like a space invaders kinda game but you have two guns. Or a gun and a shield. Great game IMO.
    - jonplackett 6y ago
      Beatsaber is SOOOOOOO much better, give it a try ASAP!
  - jimmySixDOF 6y ago
    It also just logged past $180,000,000 sales
    - jonplackett 6y ago
      They deserve every penny. It's a once-in-a-decade game.
qwtel 6y ago
One can make the argument that Beat Saber is the #1 use for VR right now. It not only tops Oculus' Top-Selling list by a comfortable 3x margin (assuming # of ratings are a good proxy for sales), but also the Most Popular section, ahead of YouTube, Rec Room and VR Chat. These are social (media) apps that are free, while Beat Saber costs $29 + additional in-game purchases. It's crazy how popular this game is within its niche. It's like a paid, single-player game had more downloads than WhatsApp on the App Store. It's no wonder that Facebook gobbled it up years ago. Any Quest competitor that comes without Beat Saber is going to be though sell, and I assume that it would be strategically missing from any future Apple VR Store...
tsbinz 6y ago
It's also possible that they are different from you (e.g. they have an IPD that's not in the range the headsets are designed for, or they are more sensitive to the vergence-accomodation-conflict) and still experience eye strain/headaches. I do own a headset and I also love beat saber and alyx, but I can't use it for too long.
freeflight 6y ago
While I have no specific source for VR, it's been kind of a meme for a long time that porn has been one of the major driving forces in the tech world and for tech adoption [0] I guess the nature of the content makes it difficult to actually surface that because only a minority of people are open/vocal about their porn consumption habits or in what ways they are consuming it. Case in point: Most people have no issue letting their online-social circle know that games they are playing, like in the way Steam surfaces it to friends. While at the same time there is some demand by people to hide the more "embarrasing" games from their library they don't want others to know they have in their library [1] On a personal note: I have to agree with the parent comment that porn is actually the kind of content that makes the advantages of VR really shine on the immersive end, particularly when coupled with 3D audio like that of the Index. Fitness games are cool too, but they suffer from usually being very fictionalized in setting and art style. So while they take you to a place, you inherently know that place is fake. With porn VR content its usually a real setting, with real people, and you are suddenly right in the middle of it, which adds a lot to the feeling of being immersed in an actual place, and not just some virtual space made up of virtual polygons. [0] http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/23/porn.technology/index.html http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/23/porn.technology/index... [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/9wvfbw/a_way_to_hide_games_in_library_from_profile/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/9wvfbw/a_way_to_hide...

chrischen 6y ago

> What's the source on this? Based on the GP's username it's probably from a self-survey.

draw_down 6y ago
Thanks for posting

Sebguer 6y ago

In the context of the rest of this comment, and the one you're referring to, I wonder how many people assume 'Beat Saber' is a euphemism. (https://beatsaber.com/ https://beatsaber.com/)

scrollaway 6y ago
Yep! And I can only sing praises about this game. It's some of the most fun I've ever had playing a video game. IMO it's the killer app of VR.
- rblatz 6y ago
  Oh come on man join he Echo VR crew, your walls and all those 12 year old kids won’t punch themselves.
- Cthulhu_ 6y ago
  I've never played Beat Saber but one of the first VR games I played was Space Pirate Trainer, basically like a space invaders kinda game but you have two guns. Or a gun and a shield. Great game IMO.
  - jonplackett 6y ago
    Beatsaber is SOOOOOOO much better, give it a try ASAP!
- jimmySixDOF 6y ago
  It also just logged past $180,000,000 sales
  - jonplackett 6y ago
    They deserve every penny. It's a once-in-a-decade game.

qwtel 6y ago

One can make the argument that Beat Saber is the #1 use for VR right now. It not only tops Oculus' Top-Selling list by a comfortable 3x margin (assuming # of ratings are a good proxy for sales), but also the Most Popular section, ahead of YouTube, Rec Room and VR Chat. These are social (media) apps that are free, while Beat Saber costs $29 + additional in-game purchases. It's crazy how popular this game is within its niche. It's like a paid, single-player game had more downloads than WhatsApp on the App Store. It's no wonder that Facebook gobbled it up years ago. Any Quest competitor that comes without Beat Saber is going to be though sell, and I assume that it would be strategically missing from any future Apple VR Store...

tsbinz 6y ago

It's also possible that they are different from you (e.g. they have an IPD that's not in the range the headsets are designed for, or they are more sensitive to the vergence-accomodation-conflict) and still experience eye strain/headaches. I do own a headset and I also love beat saber and alyx, but I can't use it for too long.

freeflight 6y ago

While I have no specific source for VR, it's been kind of a meme for a long time that porn has been one of the major driving forces in the tech world and for tech adoption [0] I guess the nature of the content makes it difficult to actually surface that because only a minority of people are open/vocal about their porn consumption habits or in what ways they are consuming it. Case in point: Most people have no issue letting their online-social circle know that games they are playing, like in the way Steam surfaces it to friends. While at the same time there is some demand by people to hide the more "embarrasing" games from their library they don't want others to know they have in their library [1] On a personal note: I have to agree with the parent comment that porn is actually the kind of content that makes the advantages of VR really shine on the immersive end, particularly when coupled with 3D audio like that of the Index. Fitness games are cool too, but they suffer from usually being very fictionalized in setting and art style. So while they take you to a place, you inherently know that place is fake. With porn VR content its usually a real setting, with real people, and you are suddenly right in the middle of it, which adds a lot to the feeling of being immersed in an actual place, and not just some virtual space made up of virtual polygons. [0] http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/23/porn.technology/index.html http://edition.cnn.com/2010/TECH/04/23/porn.technology/index... [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/9wvfbw/a_way_to_hide_games_in_library_from_profile/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/9wvfbw/a_way_to_hide...