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I'll say three things in response: 1) There is no evidence that MTG does not believe that Nancy Pelosi should be murdered. There is evidence that she does. S
by cozuya 6y ago
I'll say three things in response:
1) There is no evidence that MTG does not believe that Nancy Pelosi should be murdered. There is evidence that she does. She has never apologized for it.
2) If you, or anyone else, makes a death threat to a public figure on social media, you will be at minimum receiving a visit from law enforcement, and will be arrested if you don't immediately disavow what you said or are thought of as a threat. "Watts" ruled that "mere political hyperbole" is not illegal, have fun in court trying to convince the judge of that. Death threats are not just "distasteful rhetoric", come on.
3) The fact that you a) gloss over the rest of my post and b) don't even bother to condemn this stuff is really telling.
One more thing: have you ever received a death threat from a stranger?
I have, I was playing poker in a casino late at night. I was not frightened, but it was not a pleasant experience.
The guy was 86ed, and a few hours later I was escorted to my car by security. I stayed away for a few days despite it being my only income at the time. That was 15 years ago I still think about it some times. I don't wish that experience on anyone. Being a politician must be terrifying. Really sad to see it minimized here.
- rayiner 6y ago> There is no evidence that MTG does not believe that Nancy Pelosi should be murdered. There is evidence that she does. She has never apologized for it. I have a hardcore feminist friend who repeatedly gets banned from Facebook for hyperbolic rhetoric like “kill all men.” Is that evidence she wants to kill all men? No it’s hyperbole. (And it’s stupid that Facebook bans it but the rest of the world doesn’t run by Facebook rules). > If you, or anyone else, makes a death threat to a public figure on social media, you will be at minimum receiving a visit from law enforcement, and will be arrested if you don't immediately disavow what you said or are thought of as a threat. The comment MTG liked, “a bullet would be quicker,” would not be perceived as a “death threat” in any court of law. It’s archetypal political hyperbole. > "Watts" ruled that "mere political hyperbole" is not illegal, have fun in court trying to convince the judge of that. I’d take that case in a heartbeat. It’s a straightforward application of Watts. > Death threats are not just "distasteful rhetoric", come on. 3) The fact that you a) gloss over the rest of my post and b) don't even bother to condemn this stuff is really telling. I condemn MTG completely. But this one is a stupid justification. > One more thing: have you ever received a death threat from a stranger? The whole point is that a violent comment made on a Twitter board about a public figure isn’t a death threat. If I called you up and said “I’m going to put a bullet in your head,” that’s a death threat. If I say “someone should take Ted Cruz out back and shoot him” that’s obviously not a death threat. You know this because you’ve heard this phraseology a million times.
- cozuya 6y agoThank you for the condemnation, but if you continue to support (which you do, by your constant defending of them) the political party that WONT condemn, censure, or discipline her, its entirely meaningless. As far as your other handwaving dismissals, all I can say is actions and words from public figures, especially politicians, have consequences. You might not agree, which is fine, but this is how we get January 6th. I hope you condemn that too. And I have never, not once, heard "we should should shoot Ted Cruz", or anything even close to that. For, you know, Republican politicians. Democrats, many, many times.