> > signal is not censorship resistant by itself. And we should criticise them for that because it was a warning delivered in a timely manner and never heeded.

> > signal is not censorship resistant by itself. And we should criticise them for that because it was a warning delivered in a timely manner and never heeded. > I don’t believe Signal ever claimed to be censorship resistant to begin with. I just looked at their description on the App Store and nothing there mentions bypassing censorship. Moxie's talk on Signal's centralisation and how (in his view) that makes it better than decentised systems explicitly claims that Signal is better at censorship resistance than "decentralised systems" (his comparison was basically limited to email and the argument was primarily that you cannot move email accounts easily -- in my view that's a pretty colossal strawman of distributed systems, but you can be the judge)[1]. This argument was based on the fact they do domain fronting (whoops) and that they can move their servers and update all clients simultaneously. I think it's more than fair to bring up that this argument is not true in practice and that other decentralised systems (such as Tor) are clearly far more censorship resistant than Signal. That doesn't mean you shouldn't help them solve the immediate problem though. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj3YFprqAr8&t=1027 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nj3YFprqAr8&t=1027