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What better way to find out whether or not this is true than with a real experiment? This is a fantastic idea, because we could see what alternatives actually l
by karl11 6y ago
What better way to find out whether or not this is true than with a real experiment? This is a fantastic idea, because we could see what alternatives actually look like. If you don't want to live there, you just simply don't live there.
- mlthoughts2018 6y ago“If you don’t want to live there, don’t live there” - the siren song of inhumane exploitation.
- jonathankoren 6y ago“Anyone can buy OCP stock, and own a piece of our city. What could be more democratic than that?” Robocop 2 https://youtu.be/wA_P8CaNwro https://youtu.be/wA_P8CaNwro
- rodgerd 6y agoWe've already done this. They were called company towns. I realise that a lot of modern tech culture would rather re-invent the world from first principles while making 10,000 years of human mistakes at high speed in preference to acknowledging the existence of disciplines outside of STEM, but history, economics, anthropology, town planning, they're all right there with many of the answers.
- oh_sigh 6y agoAnd if you look at the track record for company towns - it is mixed. Not every company town exploited workers and paid in scrip. Some company towns were successful, humane endeavors that had higher standards of living and more upward mobility than the surrounding region. Modern federal and state law already effectively prevents the worst sort of abuse that employees had to deal with in the worst company towns of the past, so I don't foresee the same kind of exploitation happening.
- gabereiser 6y agoCan you cite an instance where this actually worked?
- IG_Semmelweiss 6y agoJamshedpur comes to mind (from Tata). Sun City, Arizona is also a good example. Gurgaon ,India - but note there are private (company) areas and public areas. In fact that may offer a nice comparison, but from my understanding the seed stage was 100% company-backed. The Woodlands, Texas. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woodlands,_Texas https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Woodlands,_Texas I think Ciudad del Este gets pretty close although thats a FTZ charter city, not exactly a "company" charter city. When you look at these cities you need to select local comps that make sense.
- newbie789 6y agohttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town Here you go!
- Nicksil 6y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town
- Arrath 6y agoThe experiments already happened, though. And they were a bloody mess, often literally if the residents dared talk about forming a union.
- ncallaway 6y agoSure, we could also try giving people arsenic to determine if it's toxic to humans. We've done both experiments already, and we should learn from the extant data rather than repeating unethical experiments.
- moron4hire 6y agoWhy repeat a several-times-over failed experiment?
- leesalminen 6y agoPretty sure this has been tried time and time again over the past 150 years [0]. It didn't end well then; why would it now? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Company_town
- babelfish 6y agoOf course this has happened before: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feudalism
- ruined 6y agolast time company towns were commonplace, America had a minor civil war (10k+ combatant pitched battles, air raids) that dragged on for decades https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_Wars