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This article felt a little bit silly to me, Python intentionally is one of the easiest languages to use. And this article kind of argues it needs to get even ea

This article felt a little bit silly to me, Python intentionally is one of the easiest languages to use. And this article kind of argues it needs to get even easier? The only thing I can dream about is some type of typescript like version of Python with good old-fashioned type checking. I prefer C# and Flutter only because I really need types when my applications get larger.

quibono 6y ago
What about the typing module in py3? I now try to use it whenever I'm doing things in Python, it makes it a lot easier to orient yourself around a codebase.
The_rationalist 6y ago
Mypy allow basic type checking
londons_explore 6y ago
> Python intentionally is one of the easiest languages to use. That was python 2... Python 3 is "growing up" and losing the simplicity and ease of use for complex hard to understand power-user features... It's the lifecycle of any language - see C++ which is 20 years ahead on the same curve...
- RHSeeger 6y ago
  Honestly, I don't recall any time at which C++ was intentionally easy to use.
  - loopz 6y ago
    With the right tooling and libraries, C++ could be both powerful and easy. Of course it means marrying a platform usually, of which there are many..
  - londons_explore 6y ago
    I guess back in 1985, it was the easy to use version of C... It handles allocating and deallocating memory for you, keeping data and code together, a nicer way to write to the console, and other basic things. I think you have to look at it with 40-year-ago eyes to see it...
- offtop5 6y ago
  I disagree, I learned Python 3 and found it very very easy, even in a professional setting. If I need to knock out a script to format a CSV file, Python 3 is an easy and fast choice.
tcbasche 6y ago
A typescript-like version of Python is basically the latest version of Python with static-analysis tools like mypy or pyright
- BadInformatics 6y ago
  The type system is a lot less sound and expressive than even TypeScript's though, so it doesn't quite offer the same level of security. I find any doesn't tend to stick around long when I use TypeScript, but my Python projects are full of cast()s and Pyright ignore comments. Typeshed is nowhere as comprehensive as DefinitelyTyped either, but that's more of a community building problem.

quibono 6y ago

What about the typing module in py3? I now try to use it whenever I'm doing things in Python, it makes it a lot easier to orient yourself around a codebase.

The_rationalist 6y ago

Mypy allow basic type checking

londons_explore 6y ago

> Python intentionally is one of the easiest languages to use. That was python 2... Python 3 is "growing up" and losing the simplicity and ease of use for complex hard to understand power-user features... It's the lifecycle of any language - see C++ which is 20 years ahead on the same curve...

RHSeeger 6y ago
Honestly, I don't recall any time at which C++ was intentionally easy to use.
- loopz 6y ago
  With the right tooling and libraries, C++ could be both powerful and easy. Of course it means marrying a platform usually, of which there are many..
- londons_explore 6y ago
  I guess back in 1985, it was the easy to use version of C... It handles allocating and deallocating memory for you, keeping data and code together, a nicer way to write to the console, and other basic things. I think you have to look at it with 40-year-ago eyes to see it...
offtop5 6y ago
I disagree, I learned Python 3 and found it very very easy, even in a professional setting. If I need to knock out a script to format a CSV file, Python 3 is an easy and fast choice.

tcbasche 6y ago

A typescript-like version of Python is basically the latest version of Python with static-analysis tools like mypy or pyright

BadInformatics 6y ago
The type system is a lot less sound and expressive than even TypeScript's though, so it doesn't quite offer the same level of security. I find any doesn't tend to stick around long when I use TypeScript, but my Python projects are full of cast()s and Pyright ignore comments. Typeshed is nowhere as comprehensive as DefinitelyTyped either, but that's more of a community building problem.