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I'm going to try to articulate the arguments of the "veggie" doctors. 1) Industry funding colors scientific results. I believe people on HN understand this. 2

I'm going to try to articulate the arguments of the "veggie" doctors. 1) Industry funding colors scientific results. I believe people on HN understand this. 2) There are marketing agencies in the US which exist to market the products of animal agriculture. These agencies fund a significant amount of research into their products. 3) The human body has an upper limit on the amount of dietary cholesterol it can absorb daily. Two eggs will accomplish this for most people. 4) Given (3), it is relatively simple to design a scientific study which demonstrates that consuming n+1 eggs daily is no more harmful than consuming n eggs daily. Please see the video series by Dr Greger[1] and the old newsletter by Dr McDougall[2]. On a personal note, I followed the veggie doctors advice for a number of years, by eating a strict vegetarian diet nearly free of sugar. My body weight dropped by more than 100 pounds, to a healthy (not overweight) range. My cholesterol dropped to around 92. After a few years, I was persistently, ravenously, insatiably hungry. The only thing that helped was returning to consuming animal products. Without intending to devolve into the middle-of-the-road fallacy, you may wish to heed the advice of Harvard Medical[3]. [1] https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=eggs https://nutritionfacts.org/?s=eggs [2] https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2016nl/jan/eggindustry.htm https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2016nl/jan/eggindustry.htm [3] https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/digesting-the-latest-research-on-eggs-2019070317179 https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/digesting-the-latest-res...

Jtsummers 6y ago
And my cholesterol dropped by 90+ points by losing 40 lbs and adopting a chicken, egg, rice, green vegetable, nuts, cheese, whole milk, and fruit centric diet. Most of those foods were better with regard to satiating me and led to me consuming fewer calories overall. Weight loss is a significant contributor to improving cholesterol levels in cases of non-hereditary high cholesterol. When moving from obese to normal weight (in your case) or borderline obese/very overweight to normal weight (in my case) it's hard to separate that from the impact of the diet on cholesterol levels.
- timbit42 6y ago
  Except for the rice, that's a Keto diet.
Fogest 6y ago
The problem I have been struggling with is that I just don't like most meat products. I think overall I have mentally since I was a child slowly create more and more disdain for meat eating and that has resulted in a physical negative reaction when I taste meat. Even just seeing meat especially in the raw form grosses me out now. Unfortunately I have found being mostly vegetarian actually hasn't greatly helped with my weight as I find there are still many fatty options that don't involve meats. I would be happy with how I eat, if it weren't for the fact that it can be hard to get certain things like high proteins from veggies. It's hard to match the efficiencies from a quick chicken and rice meal as an example.

Jtsummers 6y ago

And my cholesterol dropped by 90+ points by losing 40 lbs and adopting a chicken, egg, rice, green vegetable, nuts, cheese, whole milk, and fruit centric diet. Most of those foods were better with regard to satiating me and led to me consuming fewer calories overall. Weight loss is a significant contributor to improving cholesterol levels in cases of non-hereditary high cholesterol. When moving from obese to normal weight (in your case) or borderline obese/very overweight to normal weight (in my case) it's hard to separate that from the impact of the diet on cholesterol levels.

timbit42 6y ago
Except for the rice, that's a Keto diet.

Fogest 6y ago

The problem I have been struggling with is that I just don't like most meat products. I think overall I have mentally since I was a child slowly create more and more disdain for meat eating and that has resulted in a physical negative reaction when I taste meat. Even just seeing meat especially in the raw form grosses me out now. Unfortunately I have found being mostly vegetarian actually hasn't greatly helped with my weight as I find there are still many fatty options that don't involve meats. I would be happy with how I eat, if it weren't for the fact that it can be hard to get certain things like high proteins from veggies. It's hard to match the efficiencies from a quick chicken and rice meal as an example.