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Also it’s one thing to test some techniques than put it all together. According to official timeline and amount of stones they should place one in every few ho

by miika 6y ago

Also it’s one thing to test some techniques than put it all together. According to official timeline and amount of stones they should place one in every few hours. You realize that you have to be absolutely perfect with the stones, as if you make little mistake near the base then the tip is not going to be in the center. But it’s so precisely in the center it would be a amazing achievement even today. Dimensions and proportions contain speed of light, size of Earth etc. It’s aligned with true north being just fraction of a degree off, something we need satellite data to do. And so on.. And there are those rocks in the desert we could not transport today. But everyone can believe only what they want to believe. I want to believe we are not very advanced yet comparing to our ancestors. It gives me hope.

pwinnski 6y ago
We don't need satellite data to find true north, it's just the easiest way to do it given that we have satellite data. That's a category error. Moving very big rocks doesn't need to involve aliens. Using water and ramps and rollers, we could move them. That a documentarian couldn't figure out how doesn't mean it isn't possible.
- miika 6y ago
  No, we don’t need satellite data to align with true north. Yes, we need satellite data to get that level of precision. When we’re talking about 1200 ton single block of granite on soft sand, we just don’t move it. Ok. We don’t take it over mountain and over river. There was huge project in California when they transported 340 ton rock. They needed satellite data to find a route that was flat enough as their specially built transporter wasn’t able to take it up hill at all. The reality is: you cannot fit enough slaves under such rock to lift it. How ancients were able to transport these rocks in your opinion?
  - pwinnski 6y ago
    As I said in my previous comment, using water and ramps and rollers[0]. They used satellite data and a specially-built transporter, which is not the same thing as it only being possible to do with satellite data and a specially-built transporter. When you have simple tools at hand, you figure out how to do things with simple tools. When you have a large budget and advanced technology at hand, you figure ou how to do things in a way that consumes the entire budget. You're very, very invested in the idea that aliens or whatever built these things, so clearly nothing will convince you. But we are continually making new discoveries about these things, and so far there really is nothing that requires anything more than very, very clever thinkers and simple machines. Believe what you want to believe, but know that the research isn't on your side. 0. https://www.discovery.com/exploration/how-the-pyramids-were-built https://www.discovery.com/exploration/how-the-pyramids-were-...
    - miika 6y ago
      I’m not into ancient aliens stuff actually. I believe in engineering and science. Clearly we follow quite different kind of researchers and see things from different perspectives. Which is great, I hope your way works for you as well as my way works for me :)
- miika 6y ago
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DoJOwTqCxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DoJOwTqCxU Ask them how would they transport 1200 ton block on soft sand over a mountain :)
  - pwinnski 6y ago
    Water, ramps, and rollers, mostly likely. But not in 11 days, or half that if not for city traffic.

by miika 6y ago

pwinnski 6y ago

We don't need satellite data to find true north, it's just the easiest way to do it given that we have satellite data. That's a category error. Moving very big rocks doesn't need to involve aliens. Using water and ramps and rollers, we could move them. That a documentarian couldn't figure out how doesn't mean it isn't possible.

miika 6y ago
No, we don’t need satellite data to align with true north. Yes, we need satellite data to get that level of precision. When we’re talking about 1200 ton single block of granite on soft sand, we just don’t move it. Ok. We don’t take it over mountain and over river. There was huge project in California when they transported 340 ton rock. They needed satellite data to find a route that was flat enough as their specially built transporter wasn’t able to take it up hill at all. The reality is: you cannot fit enough slaves under such rock to lift it. How ancients were able to transport these rocks in your opinion?
- pwinnski 6y ago
  As I said in my previous comment, using water and ramps and rollers[0]. They used satellite data and a specially-built transporter, which is not the same thing as it only being possible to do with satellite data and a specially-built transporter. When you have simple tools at hand, you figure out how to do things with simple tools. When you have a large budget and advanced technology at hand, you figure ou how to do things in a way that consumes the entire budget. You're very, very invested in the idea that aliens or whatever built these things, so clearly nothing will convince you. But we are continually making new discoveries about these things, and so far there really is nothing that requires anything more than very, very clever thinkers and simple machines. Believe what you want to believe, but know that the research isn't on your side. 0. https://www.discovery.com/exploration/how-the-pyramids-were-built https://www.discovery.com/exploration/how-the-pyramids-were-...
  - miika 6y ago
    I’m not into ancient aliens stuff actually. I believe in engineering and science. Clearly we follow quite different kind of researchers and see things from different perspectives. Which is great, I hope your way works for you as well as my way works for me :)
miika 6y ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DoJOwTqCxU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DoJOwTqCxU Ask them how would they transport 1200 ton block on soft sand over a mountain :)
- pwinnski 6y ago
  Water, ramps, and rollers, mostly likely. But not in 11 days, or half that if not for city traffic.