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The German government decided on a new, extremely strict copyright reform

47 points by merlinscholz 6y ago

merlinscholz 6y ago
Sadly, I could not find an English article. Good German article: https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/uploadfilter-und-bagatellschranke-bundeskabinett-beschliesst-urheberrechtsreform-a-0c50281e-a812-4f21-a839-ed680098370a https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/uploadfilter-und-bagatel... Google Translate seems to do an okay job: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/uploadfilter-und-bagatellschranke-bundeskabinett-beschliesst-urheberrechtsreform-a-0c50281e-a812-4f21-a839-ed680098370a https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https...
rawland 6y ago
This is so important... can't believe this almost flew under the news radar. Orig (DE): https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/urheberrecht-gesetz-bundesregierung-101.html https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/urheberrecht-gesetz-bundesr... Translate (EN): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/urheberrecht-gesetz-bundesregierung-101.html https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https...
Leparamour 6y ago
The only logical explanation for this decision is corruption at the highest level of the legislative. And we're not even allowed to protest this publically. How convenient.
- dtx1 6y ago
  no thats not the only logical explanation, simple callousness and a deep misunderstanding of the basic technology that runs the world is much likelier
  - _ink_ 6y ago
    Great, so it's either corruption or ignorance. And somehow these clowns get enough votes again and again. Probably because they have enough advertisement budget to brainwash enough people.
dtx1 6y ago
What could we have down about? Protests were ignored, lies were spread about (the CDU, germans leading conservative party) promised on their Websites "NO UPLOAD FILTERS", ironically, their party in the EU were the ones pushing the laws requiring upload filters. Now, the filters are sold as a "reasonable compromise". They ignored all experts, civil rights institutions, they managed to remove even the tiniest language that might allow for "fair use". In essence, it has been decided that copyright is a higher good than civil freedoms. And why wouldn't they? The lobbyists fill their pockets for it and their reliable boomer voterbase doesn't even want to understand it because it's "the internet" and they'd prefer not having it in the first place. I really don't know what to do about it anymore. Sure, I can work around all this. I wouldn't be bothered by a censored internet either, mostly because i had the opportunity to learn how to route around it while that information wasn't censored yet. But it doesn't have to work for everyone, it's enough that it works for the 90% of people who didn't care and can't do any better. This is frustrating to me and i honestly don't know what to do about this anymore. "I have nothing to hide" has become the only response i get from older people whom i try to explain why they are being abused and tracked without their knowledge. Why the ever extending reach of the state into their private lives and the ever increasing scope of surveillance and control is a really bad Idea if you want civil liberties to prevail. They. do. not. care. I don't know what i can do to stop this anymore...
- lovelyviking 6y ago
  May be we should address the core of the issue. The main thing about copyright to understand would be: Is there such ‘right’ at all? Is it a ‘right’ if you think about it? >I don’t know what I can do to stop this anymore ... This level of frustration people has experienced in Ukraine during Maidan protests. Turned out that ‘peoaceful’ protest is effective only if the other side is smart enough and wish to listen. But if the other side is dumb enough and considers ‘peaceful’ protest as a ‘green light’ to do whatever they want (Look for beating peaceful people in Belarus recently and now in Russia) then it looks like ‘Maidan’ techniques are more effective. So for example you can look and learn how Ukrainians stood for their rights against power abuse and attempts of pushing dictatorship laws through the parliament.

47 points by merlinscholz 6y ago

Sadly, I could not find an English article. Good German article: https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/uploadfilter-und-bagatellschranke-bundeskabinett-beschliesst-urheberrechtsreform-a-0c50281e-a812-4f21-a839-ed680098370a https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/uploadfilter-und-bagatel... Google Translate seems to do an okay job: https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/web/uploadfilter-und-bagatellschranke-bundeskabinett-beschliesst-urheberrechtsreform-a-0c50281e-a812-4f21-a839-ed680098370a https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https...

rawland 6y ago

This is so important... can't believe this almost flew under the news radar. Orig (DE): https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/urheberrecht-gesetz-bundesregierung-101.html https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/urheberrecht-gesetz-bundesr... Translate (EN): https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/urheberrecht-gesetz-bundesregierung-101.html https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https...

Leparamour 6y ago

The only logical explanation for this decision is corruption at the highest level of the legislative. And we're not even allowed to protest this publically. How convenient.

dtx1 6y ago
no thats not the only logical explanation, simple callousness and a deep misunderstanding of the basic technology that runs the world is much likelier
- _ink_ 6y ago
  Great, so it's either corruption or ignorance. And somehow these clowns get enough votes again and again. Probably because they have enough advertisement budget to brainwash enough people.

dtx1 6y ago

What could we have down about? Protests were ignored, lies were spread about (the CDU, germans leading conservative party) promised on their Websites "NO UPLOAD FILTERS", ironically, their party in the EU were the ones pushing the laws requiring upload filters. Now, the filters are sold as a "reasonable compromise". They ignored all experts, civil rights institutions, they managed to remove even the tiniest language that might allow for "fair use". In essence, it has been decided that copyright is a higher good than civil freedoms. And why wouldn't they? The lobbyists fill their pockets for it and their reliable boomer voterbase doesn't even want to understand it because it's "the internet" and they'd prefer not having it in the first place. I really don't know what to do about it anymore. Sure, I can work around all this. I wouldn't be bothered by a censored internet either, mostly because i had the opportunity to learn how to route around it while that information wasn't censored yet. But it doesn't have to work for everyone, it's enough that it works for the 90% of people who didn't care and can't do any better. This is frustrating to me and i honestly don't know what to do about this anymore. "I have nothing to hide" has become the only response i get from older people whom i try to explain why they are being abused and tracked without their knowledge. Why the ever extending reach of the state into their private lives and the ever increasing scope of surveillance and control is a really bad Idea if you want civil liberties to prevail. They. do. not. care. I don't know what i can do to stop this anymore...

lovelyviking 6y ago
May be we should address the core of the issue. The main thing about copyright to understand would be: Is there such ‘right’ at all? Is it a ‘right’ if you think about it? >I don’t know what I can do to stop this anymore ... This level of frustration people has experienced in Ukraine during Maidan protests. Turned out that ‘peoaceful’ protest is effective only if the other side is smart enough and wish to listen. But if the other side is dumb enough and considers ‘peaceful’ protest as a ‘green light’ to do whatever they want (Look for beating peaceful people in Belarus recently and now in Russia) then it looks like ‘Maidan’ techniques are more effective. So for example you can look and learn how Ukrainians stood for their rights against power abuse and attempts of pushing dictatorship laws through the parliament.