> "Uhm, ugly relatively to what exactly?" before, you said > "...human beauty in my view is totally different because it's natural..." which is the yardstick

> "Uhm, ugly relatively to what exactly?" before, you said > "...human beauty in my view is totally different because it's natural..." which is the yardstick from which i was extrapolating (that is, natural == visceral). > "Beauty is no longer the goal of art." i agree that modern art is no longer about (natural, visceral) beauty, but rather about conceptual/contextual interestingness. but those aren't relative, those are different yardsticks, hence my attempt to disentangle the two.