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Sure, a 4x10 would be workable if the hours fit roughly into a traditional household schedule. But 4x 1:20a-11:50a shifts per week would make it impossible to

Sure, a 4x10 would be workable if the hours fit roughly into a traditional household schedule. But 4x 1:20a-11:50a shifts per week would make it impossible to get your kids ready for school. And you'd be sleeping when it's time for dinner, or homework. Not to mention having time for a relationship with your spouse. Etc, etc. The shift they outline in the article sounds miserable.

ggggggt 6y ago
You shouldn't be raising a family if you are doing bottomtier warehouse work.
- lfowles 6y ago
  Are they fundamentally incompatible other than arbitrary restrictions applied by the business?
- SerLava 6y ago
  You shouldn't be posting if you are doing bottomtier rhetoric.
- dang 6y ago
  Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. We're trying to avoid that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
random5634 6y ago
I've come to realize that if Amazon does something, it gets a ton of coverage. 4x10 shifts are not a new concept. This article makes it sound like what is pretty standard warehouse stuff is a new diabolical amazon plan to create the soul crushing "megacycle". And working nights is not new. Anyone who has had to deal with 24x7 staffing (police, guard, nursing, flying etc etc) has had come up with approaches for night shift work (which is definitely terrible). Heads up, the non-megacycle night shift is also no fun for a lot of people. That said, night shift work is miserable. No question there!
- deeblering4 6y ago
  It’s suddenly telling employees “take the megacycle or be unemployed” that is soul crushing and diabolical.
- rualca 6y ago
  > 4x10 shifts are not a new concept. This sort of argument sounds like a red herring. It's irrelevant if a company pioneers exploitative working conditions. What's relevant is that the company is imposing exploitative working conditions. Isn't the whole point of society to ensure everyone has the right to a decent living? Why are we arguing about the virtues of forcing a Dickensian work cycle?

ggggggt 6y ago

You shouldn't be raising a family if you are doing bottomtier warehouse work.

lfowles 6y ago
Are they fundamentally incompatible other than arbitrary restrictions applied by the business?
SerLava 6y ago
You shouldn't be posting if you are doing bottomtier rhetoric.
dang 6y ago
Please don't post flamewar comments to HN. We're trying to avoid that here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

random5634 6y ago

I've come to realize that if Amazon does something, it gets a ton of coverage. 4x10 shifts are not a new concept. This article makes it sound like what is pretty standard warehouse stuff is a new diabolical amazon plan to create the soul crushing "megacycle". And working nights is not new. Anyone who has had to deal with 24x7 staffing (police, guard, nursing, flying etc etc) has had come up with approaches for night shift work (which is definitely terrible). Heads up, the non-megacycle night shift is also no fun for a lot of people. That said, night shift work is miserable. No question there!

deeblering4 6y ago
It’s suddenly telling employees “take the megacycle or be unemployed” that is soul crushing and diabolical.
rualca 6y ago
> 4x10 shifts are not a new concept. This sort of argument sounds like a red herring. It's irrelevant if a company pioneers exploitative working conditions. What's relevant is that the company is imposing exploitative working conditions. Isn't the whole point of society to ensure everyone has the right to a decent living? Why are we arguing about the virtues of forcing a Dickensian work cycle?