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That's the trick isn't it: having an entire population know something an oppressive government doesn't. Even if you teach everyone how to deploy their own serv
by mholt 6y ago
That's the trick isn't it: having an entire population know something an oppressive government doesn't.
Even if you teach everyone how to deploy their own servers, then that's the knowledge the government will start targeting. You can make blocks expensive, i.e. blocking other major, useful services that would disrupt society too much for them to want to deal with, but this of course has its own costs.
It's censorship and surveillance all the way down.
- roywiggins 6y agoAs far as I know, Iran is much too open an society to actually prevent its citizens from knowing anything in particular. That's not to say it's a free society or that censorship doesn't exist there, just that it's not the sort of regime that is particularly good at it. If I had to guess, Iranian expats would be a likely set of people to start up proxy servers for their family and friends back home.
- not2b 6y agoYes, which is why Signal is doing a disservice by telling people to announce their proxies on Twitter. The expats should just tell their friends and family, and tell them to pass the word on only to people they trust.
- ALittleLight 6y agoBut this doesn't stop them from doing that. If you have an expat friend or family member with a proxy, use theirs, if not, check the latest tweet with the hashtag and use that.
- polishdude20 6y agoAt some point, the easier option is for there to be a revolution or some sort of governmental change.
- JetSpiegel 6y agoThat's what lead to this mess in the first place!
- TedDoesntTalk 6y agoEasy to say when it is not your life or your families’ lives at risk.
- upofadown 6y agoTrue but not everyone is keen to experience the civil war that often accompanies such a change.
- sixstringtheory 6y agoCommunication is key to both of those things.
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- LinuxBender 6y agoThat is precisely why I am suggesting using a CDN. Old school CDN that is. Back in the day, if you had Akamai, your site would just use one (or many) of their generic names. Nowadays you can use your own domain to front their network, but you don't have to. If Signal was using a few CDN's and cycled through many generic end-point names, then Iran would have to block all the CDN's which would be nearly the same as shutting off the internet. This would not have to be the default mode of Signal. It could be an option that the client suggests. "Hey, it appears we are blocked. Use alternate proxies?" Then cycle through many different CDN's using many generic end-point names. Some of the CDN's can also do layer 4 vips and not have to decrypt anything. They can just act as a TCP tunnel if need be, just costs more.