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That someone is perhaps a member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference. I think a close equivalence is an MP in the UK or a congressman / co

That someone is perhaps a member of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference. I think a close equivalence is an MP in the UK or a congressman / congresswoman / senate in the US. They make proposals on various aspects of life in China. Those proposals aren't official policies. BBC should really have done a better job here. It is also funny to see the top thread a few minutes ago quickly developed into something like military might and "China must be stopped".

mytailorisrich 6y ago
The BBC is very quick on jumping to anything that can portray China in a negative light at the moment. Now, there are many things that do, but a more prudent and balanced approach with more research would serve the BBC well.
dr-detroit 6y ago
Fa Loon Gong pays big bucks if you're willing to sabre rattle for them.
nomdep 6y ago
Well, China *must* be stopped, but that has little to do with this piece of lazy reporting.
- badjeans 6y ago
  China must be stopped? What the fuck does that mean dude?
  - ramadan_steve 6y ago
    Pretty sure that means he loves his Chinese men feminized and wants to keep it that way.
  - adolph 6y ago
    Well, there are some things that need to be stopped like the endless wars on the other side of the world, the extrajudicial drone bombing of their own citizens, the lawless surveillance, militarized seat of government, ramming civilian cargo vessels with battleships, the list of things to stop goes in and on.
    - ardy42 6y ago
      > Well, there are some things that need to be stopped like the endless wars on the other side of the world, the extrajudicial drone bombing of their own citizens, the lawless surveillance, militarized seat of government, ramming civilian cargo vessels with battleships, the list of things to stop goes in and on. Of course an Adolph would try to distract focus from a oppressive unashamedly authoritarian regime towards smaller inward-focused issues.
      - adolph 6y ago
        My apologies if I caused offense. In terms of focus I advocate for the power of "and" although I disagree with your characterization of the problems raised as "smaller inward-focused." The wars and droning are not small nor inward-focused. The ramming was referred to in gallows humor as I don't think the Navy is so incompetent that they would think ramming cargo vessels would be effective, just incompetent enough to be accident-prone. The g-parent comment asserts that "China must be stopped" and I started thinking about what aspect(s) of China do they want to stop. Certainly they don't want to end the country and its inhabitants. Maybe they want to stop some behaviors that cause harm in the world? What behaviors would those be? The comment uses the past tense "stopped" instead of "stop" so the implication is that some not-China entity performs the stopping. So what behavior to stop and what entity to do the stopping? Are the actions necessary to stop the behavior proportionate and are they likely effective? To predict this, I look to the track record of previous attempts to "stop" nations and it isn't pretty. My comment came from thinking about what has happened in the US over the course of this century as it has embarked on ever newer crusades to stop this or that.
        ardy42 6y ago
- ffhhj 6y ago
  So you mean we must stop borrowing money from China, must pay our debt to them and stop trading with them.
  - nomdep 6y ago
    Beign able to stop trading with them would be a previous step. I don't want an actual war, but a cold war seems to be neccesary.
blaser-waffle 6y ago
> They make proposals on various aspects of life in China. Those proposals aren't official policies. > BBC should really have done a better job here. The BBC has been flogging SJW agendas for a while now. Even though they're a state organ they need clicks just like anyone else -- and this gets traffic. Mix in some good ole China xenophobia and voila, one of the most active posts on HN. The formula works.

mytailorisrich 6y ago

The BBC is very quick on jumping to anything that can portray China in a negative light at the moment. Now, there are many things that do, but a more prudent and balanced approach with more research would serve the BBC well.

dr-detroit 6y ago

Fa Loon Gong pays big bucks if you're willing to sabre rattle for them.

nomdep 6y ago

Well, China *must* be stopped, but that has little to do with this piece of lazy reporting.

badjeans 6y ago
China must be stopped? What the fuck does that mean dude?
- ramadan_steve 6y ago
  Pretty sure that means he loves his Chinese men feminized and wants to keep it that way.
- adolph 6y ago
  Well, there are some things that need to be stopped like the endless wars on the other side of the world, the extrajudicial drone bombing of their own citizens, the lawless surveillance, militarized seat of government, ramming civilian cargo vessels with battleships, the list of things to stop goes in and on.
  - ardy42 6y ago
    > Well, there are some things that need to be stopped like the endless wars on the other side of the world, the extrajudicial drone bombing of their own citizens, the lawless surveillance, militarized seat of government, ramming civilian cargo vessels with battleships, the list of things to stop goes in and on. Of course an Adolph would try to distract focus from a oppressive unashamedly authoritarian regime towards smaller inward-focused issues.
    - adolph 6y ago
      My apologies if I caused offense. In terms of focus I advocate for the power of "and" although I disagree with your characterization of the problems raised as "smaller inward-focused." The wars and droning are not small nor inward-focused. The ramming was referred to in gallows humor as I don't think the Navy is so incompetent that they would think ramming cargo vessels would be effective, just incompetent enough to be accident-prone. The g-parent comment asserts that "China must be stopped" and I started thinking about what aspect(s) of China do they want to stop. Certainly they don't want to end the country and its inhabitants. Maybe they want to stop some behaviors that cause harm in the world? What behaviors would those be? The comment uses the past tense "stopped" instead of "stop" so the implication is that some not-China entity performs the stopping. So what behavior to stop and what entity to do the stopping? Are the actions necessary to stop the behavior proportionate and are they likely effective? To predict this, I look to the track record of previous attempts to "stop" nations and it isn't pretty. My comment came from thinking about what has happened in the US over the course of this century as it has embarked on ever newer crusades to stop this or that.
      - ardy42 6y ago
ffhhj 6y ago
So you mean we must stop borrowing money from China, must pay our debt to them and stop trading with them.
- nomdep 6y ago
  Beign able to stop trading with them would be a previous step. I don't want an actual war, but a cold war seems to be neccesary.

blaser-waffle 6y ago

> They make proposals on various aspects of life in China. Those proposals aren't official policies. > BBC should really have done a better job here. The BBC has been flogging SJW agendas for a while now. Even though they're a state organ they need clicks just like anyone else -- and this gets traffic. Mix in some good ole China xenophobia and voila, one of the most active posts on HN. The formula works.