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>> Parler positioned itself as less radical than Gab .. How can 4chan, Gab, and the even darker parts of the internet manage to persist online Some of it has d

by syshum 6y ago

>> Parler positioned itself as less radical than Gab .. How can 4chan, Gab, and the even darker parts of the internet manage to persist online Some of it has do with the fact that when it comes to political speech you can not be moderate. if you do you fall lock step in with one of the extreme's you painted by both extremes as the other... For example many times, in the same conversation or talking about the same topic with different groups I have been called a Socialist, Commie, Nazi White Supremacist, racist, etc... Political extremism seems to be the only political conversation left on the internet, this goes for both the "left" and the "right"

Applejinx 6y ago
You might consider the idea that Parler 'positioned' itself and was not in the least what it claimed itself to be. Some folks lie. Some platforms lie. If 'I promise I don't want to kill you' becomes the logical Kryptonite to get you out of any sort of jam, then it becomes nothing more than an exploit useful to people who want to kill you. All they have to do is say, 'no, you see, I'm telling you I don't and so you have to believe me' and then kill you, because they were lying. Law is based on the idea that people can intend all these negative things and then lie about them and then go through a process to be held accountable: it's never about just taking people at their word. Parler's just what AWS thought it was. Anyone trying really hard to obfuscate that is probably Parler-like themselves.
- syshum 6y ago
  >>Anyone trying really hard to obfuscate that is probably Parler-like themselves. Thank you for proving my point.... If I do not agree with you then clearly I am alt-right extremist.. Sigh... there really is not point discussing politics in a rational way anymore. This is how extremism persists.
  - Applejinx 6y ago
    Ya know, if that's the banner you want to march under… then so be it. Nazis lie, and especially love to argue that 'oh, if you don't take me at face value and accept my word then that means I'm a nazi! You know you are just FORCING me to be a nazi, right? You're the real nazi, and when the revolution comes I won't be a bit sorry to gas you, because you're a MEANIE!' So, is that what you are, or not? :) How not alt-right extremist are you, and can you prove it in any way, or is your only (rapidly provided!) argument 'you're doubting my word, and that means you're the real extremist and there's no point talking to you because you're the real extremist and everybody else should shun you, you irrational person!' Is that not what you are? You're explicitly making that argument. I'm asserting that is a tainted argument and doubling down that I mistrust your arguments because this is how you're making them.
    - syshum 6y ago
      No both of your comments are akin to Running up to someone and say "So when are you going to to stop beating your child" There is little point to engaging since you have me already threatening to gas you for some reason if I at all support a platform like Parler being allowed to even exist. I am sure you also take the "Hate Speech is not Free Speech" point of view when it comes to free speech protections, so any debate we have the subject will not go well since you will simply continue with Ad hominem's and there will be nothing of substantive value For the record, I am left-libertarian or geo-libertarian that support free speech absolutism, though i am sure you do not care much about my actual world view.
      - jahaja 6y ago
        haha, left-libertarian? With your dogmatic Propertarian propaganda that you consistently spout about here it's quite hard to believe that you're in any way shape or form adjacent to libertarian socialism.

by syshum 6y ago

Applejinx 6y ago

You might consider the idea that Parler 'positioned' itself and was not in the least what it claimed itself to be. Some folks lie. Some platforms lie. If 'I promise I don't want to kill you' becomes the logical Kryptonite to get you out of any sort of jam, then it becomes nothing more than an exploit useful to people who want to kill you. All they have to do is say, 'no, you see, I'm telling you I don't and so you have to believe me' and then kill you, because they were lying. Law is based on the idea that people can intend all these negative things and then lie about them and then go through a process to be held accountable: it's never about just taking people at their word. Parler's just what AWS thought it was. Anyone trying really hard to obfuscate that is probably Parler-like themselves.

syshum 6y ago
>>Anyone trying really hard to obfuscate that is probably Parler-like themselves. Thank you for proving my point.... If I do not agree with you then clearly I am alt-right extremist.. Sigh... there really is not point discussing politics in a rational way anymore. This is how extremism persists.
- Applejinx 6y ago
  Ya know, if that's the banner you want to march under… then so be it. Nazis lie, and especially love to argue that 'oh, if you don't take me at face value and accept my word then that means I'm a nazi! You know you are just FORCING me to be a nazi, right? You're the real nazi, and when the revolution comes I won't be a bit sorry to gas you, because you're a MEANIE!' So, is that what you are, or not? :) How not alt-right extremist are you, and can you prove it in any way, or is your only (rapidly provided!) argument 'you're doubting my word, and that means you're the real extremist and there's no point talking to you because you're the real extremist and everybody else should shun you, you irrational person!' Is that not what you are? You're explicitly making that argument. I'm asserting that is a tainted argument and doubling down that I mistrust your arguments because this is how you're making them.
  - syshum 6y ago
    No both of your comments are akin to Running up to someone and say "So when are you going to to stop beating your child" There is little point to engaging since you have me already threatening to gas you for some reason if I at all support a platform like Parler being allowed to even exist. I am sure you also take the "Hate Speech is not Free Speech" point of view when it comes to free speech protections, so any debate we have the subject will not go well since you will simply continue with Ad hominem's and there will be nothing of substantive value For the record, I am left-libertarian or geo-libertarian that support free speech absolutism, though i am sure you do not care much about my actual world view.
    - jahaja 6y ago
      haha, left-libertarian? With your dogmatic Propertarian propaganda that you consistently spout about here it's quite hard to believe that you're in any way shape or form adjacent to libertarian socialism.